Reform UK Party Conference

[mickd1961]

With all due respect to your old man/grandfathers, but what level of reliable information did they have back then to make those calls?
Then you have to ask yourself since 2016 to now.. how far have Europe got towards this conglomerate or USE? Have they got any closer to establishing it? I pretty much doubt it.. and I don’t buy into that. Give me some examples.

I agree it should all be about trade though and some freedom of movement.

I can only speak in regards to what my dad said to me Regis, those were his feelings, especially in regards to Blair.

I do agree with you that things are not now showing the same signs in regards to a USE though.

Do you not think though that this is due to the rise of the Right across many Eu countries and the changing political landscape since Merkel disappeared?

If you think back to the Eu of 2015 when Cameron tried to get us some concessions and the Eu during and just post Brexit, the Eu thing seems to be a lot more under pressure and less confident of itself than it was in the 2010’s?

I’m miles away from being any sort of sage on political matters, others on here are better qualified I think and I enjoy listening to those other people more these days.

Yourself, 123 and Omeg for example.

I was too dogmatic in pushing Brexit.

In truth, all sides including the Eu became too entrenched in their positions rather than looking for tenable solutions that would have served us all a lot better.

[regis80]

I can only speak in regards to what my dad said to me Regis, those were his feelings, especially in regards to Blair.

I do agree with you that things are not now showing the same signs in regards to a USE though.

Do you not think though that this is due to the rise of the Right across many Eu countries and the changing political landscape since Merkel disappeared?

If you think back to the Eu of 2015 when Cameron tried to get us some concessions and the Eu during and just post Brexit, the Eu thing seems to be a lot more under pressure and less confident of itself than it was in the 2010’s?

I’m miles away from being any sort of sage on political matters, others on here are better qualified I think and I enjoy listening to those other people more these days.

Yourself, 123 and Omeg for example.

I was too dogmatic in pushing Brexit.

In truth, all sides including the Eu became too entrenched in their positions rather than looking for tenable solutions that would have served us all a lot better.

Agree Mick. I think Cameron trying to negotiate that time in hindsight wasn’t the best timing as compared to now when there’s more right wing leaning politics spreading in europe. Had that attempt been now, maybe just maybe they would have made some changes.