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Thread: Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

  1. #571
    Cannot put it any better myself...

    'I am Israel. I came to a land without a people for a people without a land. Those people who happened to be here, had no right to be here, and my people showed them they had to leave or die, razing 400 Palestinian villages to the ground, erasing their history.

    I am Israel. Some of my people committed massacres and later became Prime Ministers to represent me. In 1948, Menachem Begin was in charge of the unit that slaughtered the inhabitants of Deir Yassin, including 100 women and children. In 1953, Ariel Sharon led the slaughter of the inhabitants of Qibya, and in 1982 arranged for our allies to butcher around 2,000 in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila.

    I am Israel. Carved in 1948 out of 78% of the land of Palestine, dispossessing its inhabitants and replacing them with Jews from Europe and other parts of the world. While the natives whose families lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the world are welcome to instant citizenship.

    I am Israel. In 1967, I swallowed the remaining lands of Palestine - East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza - and placed their inhabitants under an oppressive military rule, controlling and humiliating every aspect of their daily lives. Eventually, they should get the message that they are not welcome to stay, and join the millions of Palestinian refugees in the shanty camps of Lebanon and Jordan.

    I am Israel. I have the power to control American policy. My American Israel Public Affairs Committee can make or break any politician of its choosing, and as you see, they all compete to please me. All the forces of the world are powerless against me, including the UN as I have the American veto to block any condemnation of my war crimes. As Sharon so eloquently phrased it, “We control America”.

    I am Israel. I influence American mainstream media too, and you will always find the news tailored to my favor. I have invested millions of dollars into PR representation, and CNN, New York Times, and others have been doing an excellent job of promoting my propaganda. Look at other international news sources and you will see the difference.

    I am Israel. You Palestinians want to negotiate “peace!?” But you are not as smart as me; I will negotiate, but will only let you have your municipalities while I control your borders, your water, your airspace and anything else of importance. While we “negotiate,” I will swallow your hilltops and fill them with settlements, populated by the most extremist of my extremists, armed to the teeth. These settlements will be connected with roads you cannot use, and you will be imprisoned in your little Bantustans between them, surrounded by checkpoints in every direction.

    I am Israel. I have the fourth strongest army in the world, possessing nuclear weapons. How dare your children confront my oppression with stones, don’t you know my soldiers won’t hesitate to blow their heads off? In 17 months, I have killed 900 of you and injured 17,000, mostly civilians, and have the mandate to continue since the international community remains silent. Ignore, as I do, the hundreds of Israeli reserve officers who are now refusing to carry out my control over your lands and people; their voices of conscience will not protect you.

    I am Israel. You want freedom? I have bullets, tanks, missiles, Apaches and F-16s to obliterate you. I have placed your towns under siege, confiscated your lands, uprooted your trees, demolished your homes, and you still demand freedom? Don’t you get the message? You will never have peace or freedom, because I am Israel.'

    - Written by Professor Norman Finkelstein.

    Also read 'The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine', by Israeli history professor and activist Ilan Pappé.
    #FreePalestine ✌️���� ❤️

  2. #572
    Cannot put it any better myself...

    'I am Israel. I came to a land without a people for a people without a land. Those people who happened to be here, had no right to be here, and my people showed them they had to leave or die, razing 400 Palestinian villages to the ground, erasing their history.

    I am Israel. Some of my people committed massacres and later became Prime Ministers to represent me. In 1948, Menachem Begin was in charge of the unit that slaughtered the inhabitants of Deir Yassin, including 100 women and children. In 1953, Ariel Sharon led the slaughter of the inhabitants of Qibya, and in 1982 arranged for our allies to butcher around 2,000 in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila.

    I am Israel. Carved in 1948 out of 78% of the land of Palestine, dispossessing its inhabitants and replacing them with Jews from Europe and other parts of the world. While the natives whose families lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the world are welcome to instant citizenship.

    I am Israel. In 1967, I swallowed the remaining lands of Palestine - East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza - and placed their inhabitants under an oppressive military rule, controlling and humiliating every aspect of their daily lives. Eventually, they should get the message that they are not welcome to stay, and join the millions of Palestinian refugees in the shanty camps of Lebanon and Jordan.
    I am Israel. I have the power to control American policy. My American Israel Public Affairs Committee can make or break any politician of its choosing, and as you see, they all compete to please me. All the forces of the world are powerless against me, including the UN as I have the American veto to block any condemnation of my war crimes. As Sharon so eloquently phrased it, “We control America”.
    I am Israel. I influence American mainstream media too, and you will always find the news tailored to my favor. I have invested millions of dollars into PR representation, and CNN, New York Times, and others have been doing an excellent job of promoting my propaganda. Look at other international news sources and you will see the difference.

    I am Israel. You Palestinians want to negotiate “peace!?” But you are not as smart as me; I will negotiate, but will only let you have your municipalities while I control your borders, your water, your airspace and anything else of importance. While we “negotiate,” I will swallow your hilltops and fill them with settlements, populated by the most extremist of my extremists, armed to the teeth. These settlements will be connected with roads you cannot use, and you will be imprisoned in your little Bantustans between them, surrounded by checkpoints in every direction.

    I am Israel. I have the fourth strongest army in the world, possessing nuclear weapons. How dare your children confront my oppression with stones, don’t you know my soldiers won’t hesitate to blow their heads off? In 17 months, I have killed 900 of you and injured 17,000, mostly civilians, and have the mandate to continue since the international community remains silent. Ignore, as I do, the hundreds of Israeli reserve officers who are now refusing to carry out my control over your lands and people; their voices of conscience will not protect you.

    I am Israel. You want freedom? I have bullets, tanks, missiles, Apaches and F-16s to obliterate you. I have placed your towns under siege, confiscated your lands, uprooted your trees, demolished your homes, and you still demand freedom? Don’t you get the message? You will never have peace or freedom, because I am Israel.'

    - Written by Professor Norman Finkelstein.

    Also read 'The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine', by Israeli history professor and activist Ilan Pappé.
    #FreePalestine ✌️🇵🇸 ❤️

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    "You Palestinians want to negotiate “peace!?”

    Do they ? That must be why Hamas has built the largest underground tunnel system on the planet, and why Hezbollah boasts of thousands of rockets and missiles they can rain down on Israeli civilians, as and when they choose.

    Which issue of the Beano did you copy and paste that from ?

  4. #574
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    "You Palestinians want to negotiate “peace!?”

    Do they ? That must be why Hamas has built the largest underground tunnel system on the planet, and why Hezbollah boasts of thousands of rockets and missiles they can rain down on Israeli civilians, as and when they choose.

    Which issue of the Beano did you copy and paste that from ?
    Like so many others of the media influenced Israeli love-ins sinkov, you refuse to accept that Hamas & Hezbollah are NOT the unharmed civilians which the IDF use for target practice and kill at will.

    Netanyahu waited for years for Hamas to do a heinous act.

    I 100% believe he masterminded the October 7th heist.

  5. #575
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    "You Palestinians want to negotiate “peace!?”

    Do they ? That must be why Hamas has built the largest underground tunnel system on the planet, and why Hezbollah boasts of thousands of rockets and missiles they can rain down on Israeli civilians, as and when they choose.

    Which issue of the Beano did you copy and paste that from ?
    Hardly a "Beano" contributor mon ami...

    Norman Gary Finkelstein born December 8, 1953) is an American political scientist and activist. His primary fields of research are the politics of the Holocaust and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.

    Finkelstein was born in New York City to Jewish Holocaust-survivor parents. He is a graduate of Binghamton University and received his Ph.D. in political science from Princeton University. He has held faculty positions at Brooklyn College, Rutgers University, Hunter College, New York University, and DePaul University, where he was an assistant professor from 2001 to 2007. In 2006, the department and college committees at DePaul University voted to grant Finkelstein tenure. For undisclosed reasons the university administration did not tenure him, and he announced his resignation after coming to a settlement with the university.[1][2]

    Finkelstein rose to prominence in 2000 after publishing The Holocaust Industry, a book in which he writes that the memory of the Holocaust is exploited as an ideological weapon to provide Israel a degree of immunity from criticism.[3] He is a critic of Israeli policy and its governing class. The Israeli government barred him from entry to the country for ten years in 2008.[4] Finkelstein has called Israel the "Jewish supremacist state", and views it as committing the crime of apartheid against the Palestinian people.[5] Through personal accounts in one of his books, he compares the plight of the Palestinians living under Israeli occupation with the horrors of the Nazis.[6] Finkelstein's most recent book on Palestine and Israel, published in 2018, is Gaza: An Inquest into Its Martyrdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Like so many others of the media influenced Israeli love-ins sinkov, you refuse to accept that Hamas & Hezbollah are NOT the unharmed civilians which the IDF use for target practice and kill at will.

    Netanyahu waited for years for Hamas to do a heinous act.

    I 100% believe he masterminded the October 7th heist.
    That way madness lies mon ami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Hardly a "Beano" contributor mon ami...

    Norman Gary Finkelstein born December 8, 1953) is an American political scientist and activist. His primary fields of research are the politics of the Holocaust and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.

    Finkelstein was born in New York City to Jewish Holocaust-survivor parents. He is a graduate of Binghamton University and received his Ph.D. in political science from Princeton University. He has held faculty positions at Brooklyn College, Rutgers University, Hunter College, New York University, and DePaul University, where he was an assistant professor from 2001 to 2007. In 2006, the department and college committees at DePaul University voted to grant Finkelstein tenure. For undisclosed reasons the university administration did not tenure him, and he announced his resignation after coming to a settlement with the university.[1][2]

    Finkelstein rose to prominence in 2000 after publishing The Holocaust Industry, a book in which he writes that the memory of the Holocaust is exploited as an ideological weapon to provide Israel a degree of immunity from criticism.[3] He is a critic of Israeli policy and its governing class. The Israeli government barred him from entry to the country for ten years in 2008.[4] Finkelstein has called Israel the "Jewish supremacist state", and views it as committing the crime of apartheid against the Palestinian people.[5] Through personal accounts in one of his books, he compares the plight of the Palestinians living under Israeli occupation with the horrors of the Nazis.[6] Finkelstein's most recent book on Palestine and Israel, published in 2018, is Gaza: An Inquest into Its Martyrdom.
    The game is given away in the first sentence mon ami, specifically the last word of the first sentence. He's an activist, he thus has an agenda, I have little interest in what 'activists' have to say, they will always want to bang their own particular drum.

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    "They say the call by the UN general assembly last week for Israel to end its unlawful presence in the occupied Palestinian territories “can’t be another false dawn”. The UN must “move beyond strong words and agree a robust set of measures to ensure Israel’s compliance” with international law."

    Talking of compliance with international law, are you familiar with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701 mon ami ? Israel complied and withdrew from Lebanon, but Hezbollah did not, they are still fully armed and are a permanent presence south of the Litani river.

    Do you wonder why the UN is treated as a joke organisation in Israel ? And many other parts of the world as well, including Clitheroe. Two Tier peace keeping.

  9. #579
    I can only conclude that the US/UK/EU diplomatically and militarily backed Jews continue to wage war against an Arab civilian population in the Holy Land in what appears to me to be a western sponsored Christian crusade in the Middle East. Religion is not dead but feasibly God is.

    Now Netanyahu has ruined Gaza and stolen the West Bank he will do the same in southern Lebanon and then demolish Beirut. God is dead.

  10. #580
    Winter Fuel Allowance cut, God only knows how Reeves intends to rinse the pensioners in the impending budget, meanwhile let them eat cake...

    The cost of the grant that funds the monarchy is due to increase by more than 53% in the next year to £132m – a rise of £45m.

    Official royal accounts released earlier this year revealed that huge profits of over £1bn from the crown estate mean the taxpayer-funded sovereign grant, which pays for the royal family’s official duties, will increase from £86.3m in 2024-25 to £132m in 2025-26.

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