Is it just me....

[ramAnag]

Thanks for the response (genuinely)

Regarding comments made abut myself.

I'm not 'broadly on the right', my 'worldview' is way more nuanced than can be contained by what I believe to be outmoded 'pigeonholes'. My opinions are well-considered and evidence/observation-based
I'm not pushing an agenda and don't know what you're getting at there

Regarding your general comments

You've really just pointed out that we all have our faults. That's human nature. You may find certain 'faults' more objectionable than I do and vice versa, likewise other forum members. If I took action on every post which a forum member didn't particularly like we wouldn't have much of a forum.

What I’m getting at is that you have been keen to rid the forum of the political threads, especially the Brexit one, since you became a moderator and you don’t like being taken to task by other posters, most notably Swale…but also me.

If your world view is ‘way more nuanced’ than ‘broadly on the right’ then I’m wrong…but that’s certainly how it comes across to me and I can only judge on what people/you write.

Of course you can’t take action on every post a forum member doesn’t like and no one is suggesting you can. What I think you can do however is uphold those ‘rules’ we commonly accept as being necessary and stop trying to introduce your own as regards what we can and cannot talk about.

Just my opinion.

[Andy_Faber]

What I’m getting at is that you have been keen to rid the forum of the political threads, especially the Brexit one, since you became a moderator and you don’t like being taken to task by other posters, most notably Swale…but also me.

If your world view is ‘way more nuanced’ than ‘broadly on the right’ then I’m wrong…but that’s certainly how it comes across to me and I can only judge on what people/you write.

Of course you can’t take action on every post a forum member doesn’t like and no one is suggesting you can. What I think you can do however is uphold those ‘rules’ we commonly accept as being necessary and stop trying to introduce your own as regards what we can and cannot talk about.

Just my opinion.

Regarding the 'political' threads, not true that I've been keen to get rid of them, I find it bizarre that folk want to use a footy forum to spout off about their political views but if they do then fair go. This is the only forum where I share my opinions by the way, and I'm not entirely sure why but I think its because of how the forum is laid out. One thing that I do object to is the hijacking of non-political threads with political asides/comments, chief culprit here over the past few years being yourself. Note also that none of the posts I've deleted recently were due to an opinion I disagreed with, most were for name calling.

Regarding the 'ban' on discussing Islam, that was in response to your own requests to TTR to stop. I was surprised you took issue with that, especially as it's moved us at least temporarily away from the subject

Regarding my 'leaning', fair enough if that's what you see, I think too often you fall in line with Swale's unavoidably kneejerk rejection of any opinion I have rather than take time to actually think about the opinion I've offered

As far as I'm aware, I do uphold a set of evenly applied rules. Until recently such rules were pretty 'laissez faire' (but still applied evenly), after a bit of a grumble (including by you) I just tightened them up a bit. One of those recently applied more actively was that of name-calling, and that decision came after you and only you had made a fuss about it. I found it strange that when I applied some control in that area it was you that objected

One thing I think you might be missing, or a trap that you are falling into, is that you only seem (on this forum) to regard 'diversity' as a race/colour issue and ignoring things such as neurodiversity. There's a particular line of unpleasant argument on the political threads that goes along the line of anyone disagreeing with a poster's opinion being of low intellect (in all its many forms and with all its many put-downs), some of which posts I've deleted for that reason. Have you not considered that calling someone a demeaning name of that nature (lets say 'thick') might impact someone, even if not the person it was aimed at, as much as calling a black person a 'w*g'?. Surely as someone coming from an education background you must be aware of the collateral impact of such name-calling? Maybe not but I'd hope so. I touched on this in a thread a while ago but as ever it got swallowed up in the right/left bunfight

[ramAnag]

Regarding the 'political' threads, not true that I've been keen to get rid of them, I find it bizarre that folk want to use a footy forum to spout off about their political views but if they do then fair go. This is the only forum where I share my opinions by the way, and I'm not entirely sure why but I think its because of how the forum is laid out. One thing that I do object to is the hijacking of non-political threads with political asides/comments, chief culprit here over the past few years being yourself.

Regarding my 'leaning', fair enough if that's what you see, I think too often you fall in line with Swale's unavoidably kneejerk rejection of any opinion I have rather than take time to actually think about the opinion I've offered

As far as I'm aware, I do uphold a set of evenly applied rules. Until recently such rules were pretty 'laissez faire' (but still applied evenly), after a bit of a grumble (including by you) I just tightened them up a bit. One of those recently applied more actively was that of name-calling, and that decision came after you and only you had made a fuss about it. I found it strange that when I applied some control in that area it was you that objected

One thing I think you might be missing, or a trap that you are falling into, is that you only seem (on this forum) to regard 'diversity' as a race/colour issue and ignoring things such as neurodiversity. There's a particular line of unpleasant argument on the political threads that goes along the line of anyone disagreeing with a poster's opinion being of low intellect (in all its many forms and with all its many put-downs). Have you not considered that calling some a demeaning name of that nature (lets say 'thick') might impact someone, even if not the person it was aimed at, as much as calling a black person a 'w*g'?. Surely as someone coming from an education background you must be aware of the collateral impact of such name-calling? Maybe not but I'd hope so. I touched on this in a thread a while ago but as ever it got swallowed up in the right/left bunfight

I seem to remember you suggesting you wanted to remove the Brexit thread shortly after taking over. If I’m wrong I apologise. You seem to regularly have a bee in your bonnet about the political threads in general. Again if I’m wrong…so be it, but I’d dispute your claim about me hijacking non political threads with political comments other than occasionally in the most light hearted manner. As regards making a ‘fuss’ over name calling…when did I (and only me) do that?

Don’t ‘get’ the second paragraph. I agree with much of Swale’s politics…not about to apologise for that. I don’t believe either he or I display ‘knee jerk’ reactions.

I imagine you’re referring to Tricky being sometimes known as ‘Thicky’ which is not something I call him, but is just an obvious nickname based on the ‘title’ he chose for himself. I’m well aware of how calling someone a ‘demeaning name’ can impact upon them but I doubt TTR loses much sleep over having one letter of his forum name changed occasionally by one poster.

P.S. One thing I have mentioned is these ‘Â’s. Have to type everything twice at the moment. Can’t you sort that please?