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    I think the expansion debate is a great "problem" to have. Not that long ago we'd never be having it.

    Sorry oz... but have to disagree on the taxes. While I've never even sniffed "being rich" I do know that most developed countries the "rich" pay over 80% of the taxes. In some countries it's higher. Not sure what constitutes "rich" anymore but I'd say over 10 million pounds is a good starting point.

    I will also make another rather simple minded observation from an old guy in the real world. I've never worked for a poor person. I know the ultimate goal of every government is to have us all working for them but that doesn't tend to work out so well. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuala and a host of African countries are real world examples of that that model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    I think the expansion debate is a great "problem" to have. Not that long ago we'd never be having it.

    Sorry oz... but have to disagree on the taxes. While I've never even sniffed "being rich" I do know that most developed countries the "rich" pay over 80% of the taxes. In some countries it's higher. Not sure what constitutes "rich" anymore but I'd say over 10 million pounds is a good starting point.

    I will also make another rather simple minded observation from an old guy in the real world. I've never worked for a poor person. I know the ultimate goal of every government is to have us all working for them but that doesn't tend to work out so well. North Korea, Cuba, Venezuala and a host of African countries are real world examples of that that model.
    Lol don't come to oz than. If you think the rich pay tax well you really aren't rich. We have a billionaire here been questioned why he hid 90k in taxes been paid just this week. We have politicians getting free airplane first class trips nonstop because they didn't allow quator airways the flights they wanted to bring in to save people thousands on fairs by keeping quanta's another rogue origination to each self charging the poorer folk 3 times what they should be paid. Mate the rich get there by not giving away a cent except the pockets they fill. Another example you know some of the richest originations are? The churches and religious groups guess how? No taxes. In my little town we have a group called the brethren they own heaps of big business and huge houses, pay no taxes and the houses aren't taxed because in a tiny corner in the house they put a couple pictures and declare that's the prayer room lol

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    Several of your examples are government issues and not rich people issues. The fact that some unelected bureacrat has the authority to forbid flights from another airline flying in is not a rich person fault. It's the stooges that elected the government that decided this was "good for the people".

    Not that I really think that your our vote counts. As Stalin so aptly put it "it's not who votes that counts, it who counts the votes".

    I also strongly suggest that nothing shows concern for "the people" than forbidding any speech that is deemed "offensive" by some unlected bureaucrat.

    Regarding Mrs O's post. It takes rich people to make dreams such as Elland road renovation along with beefing up the club's competitiveness. Don't have to like them but unlike government if you don't like them you can choose someone else or discontinue support.

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