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    Quote Originally Posted by Oranje White View Post
    "WORKERS" being the key word. The pink haired trans pedos hate him because they watch and listen and read the Ametican-hating commie MSM.
    Very true

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Do yourself a favor. If you know all about the US and world political stage then don't bother to read my wandering dialogue. Just rest assured that you press and journalists feed you open, independent and well researched news that you are spoon fed. They will keep feeding it to you. It's the same worldwide and why schools are indoctrination centers and not incubators of independent thought anymore.




    Mrs O, not picking on you. Just referencing your quote on Yank tourists visiting your country....


    QUOTE=MrsORichSenior_;40595197]For me living in W. France.... we do not show enough consideration to the political debates and problems of other countries........ particularly the Trump/Biden ideologies which I do try to follow via the Euro press.
    I also often speak and listen to American folks who arrive in St Nazaire by bus loads visiting WW2 sites..... so politics do often crop up when talking to Americans sat at waterside hangouts.

    In my view, Trump appears not so much a fascist but rather part of a new 'authoritarianism'....... that subverts democracy from within and solidifies power through administrative rather than paramilitary means broadly speaking.

    These new authoritarians do not necessarily take a sledgehammer to a nations institutions, for example, by doing away with elections....... they hollow out democracy from within, so it becomes a façade draped over a one-party state......... The new style authoritarians govern through the transformation of the civil service into their own personal political machines... is the way rightly or wrongly as I see it ?

    More so..... as Trump keeps saying that if he is elected to a second term he will prosecute his political opponents [the enemies within]. On 22 October he stated, once again that as President he would use 'extreme power' …... stating 'We can’t play games with these people and these are people that are dangerous people … an enemy from within.'

    In Europe, Spain’s socialist prime minister Sánchez described the recent French election results as a warning and a lesson for Spain..........stating....... 'you always beat the far-right by governing and bringing in progressive policies........ that one by one give the lie to all the fake news that the far-right movement often spreads'.

    However, the French far-right Party share of the government votes offers a cautionary tale for European civil society to learn from if it is to hopefully help stave off the very real far-right threat.......
    ..... but in the context of a widening gap between French voters and the political elite then it actually fell to civil society to channel anger, fear and hope into a political force that countered the rise of the far-right in the end for French society in 2024, particularly from the vocal unified under thirty-five year old voters........

    Ultimately......... French regional, as well as religious identity explained the far-right’s poor performances........ particularly in my Western France home region 'Brittany' with its strong Breton independent identity.......
    so from that perspective it certainly weakened arguments from the Far-rights political party about supposed threats to French identity........ as shared Christian culture, including among those who do not consider themselves Christians, which has been perceived for a long time as a major obstacle to the far-right throughout Europe.

    So I do see comparisons when I look out across my coastal bay outwards to my Atlantic friends and remember how ever changing politics led me on new journeys in life.

    MOT
    You do realize that Trump has been charged over 100 times in local, state and federal courts? Not one of which would have occurred if he was not a politician? Not sure if you realize that the "russian collusion" steele dossier where he supposedly colluded with the russians in order to get ***ual favors from Russian escorts was also 100% fabricated but covered endlessly for 3 years over hear by "journalists" without one shred of truth. Over 1 million hours/pages of coverage by the media and journalists without one shred of truth. They could give the Chinese and North Koreans lessons in propaganda.

    Not sure what the definition of political persecution is across the pond but that sure seems to fit the bill



    I do understand that we all tend to look at our home country as a really, really important place. It's a national pride that I hope all people feel about their home but, like any countries press these days, you are much better off assuming that you are being lied to rather than the truth unless you see and hear it with your own eyes.


    The people you are running into in France are not your typical Americans. This is especially the case for anyone from the Washington DC area. The rest of the country works so that these elites `can tell us how to live, worship and think. They grant us the privelege of keeping half our paycheck so that they tell us how to live more fulfilled and productive lives. we should be honored and grateful that they know what's best for us and protect our children and us from ourselves. Many of us will never have the resources and time to travel overseas. Few Americans have pensions anymore. The only people that do have pensions are government workers and some of the old line Union factory jobs. if you take the time to research whats actually going on in the US economy you'd find the power and wealth is all coalescing in DC and the big cities while the rural areas are dying off. The regulation which is arbitrary and capricious based on who you support politically is choking out small business start ups (the key to US economic growth) and the education system is failing at all levels.

    The polls that I have worked at this election season are jammed. I suspect this will be a record turnout vote in the US.

    Trump is not a fascist. He's a New York real estate Baron that realized that the country is failing. A businessman in a failed state can't make the money that they can in a booming economy. His attitude, abrasiveness and overall obnoxious behavior is endemic in New York and the real estate industry. He is not a politician and he can't understand the millions of worthless bureaucrats that create no value to the citizens (his potential customers). He's a threat to the system and they will stop at nothing to make sure he does not change it or alter it in a way that they bureaucrats lose their power. DC doesn't even pretend anymore. The fact they ran a candidate that has not run on any policies, programs or items that she's going to change or implement (other than give aways on housing and school loans) shows just how much contempt they have for 1/2 of the country.[/QUOTE]

    God bless America.
    I hope a Trump victory will spread to GB as we are currently ****ed and worse is to come.
    Trump victory - a new prosperity and hope
    Democrat victory - the end of civilisation as we know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffer999 View Post
    You do realize that Trump has been charged over 100 times in local, state and federal courts? Not one of which would have occurred if he was not a politician? Not sure if you realize that the "russian collusion" steele dossier where he supposedly colluded with the russians in order to get ***ual favors from Russian escorts was also 100% fabricated but covered endlessly for 3 years over hear by "journalists" without one shred of truth. Over 1 million hours/pages of coverage by the media and journalists without one shred of truth. They could give the Chinese and North Koreans lessons in propaganda.

    Not sure what the definition of political persecution is across the pond but that sure seems to fit the bill



    I do understand that we all tend to look at our home country as a really, really important place. It's a national pride that I hope all people feel about their home but, like any countries press these days, you are much better off assuming that you are being lied to rather than the truth unless you see and hear it with your own eyes.


    The people you are running into in France are not your typical Americans. This is especially the case for anyone from the Washington DC area. The rest of the country works so that these elites `can tell us how to live, worship and think. They grant us the privelege of keeping half our paycheck so that they tell us how to live more fulfilled and productive lives. we should be honored and grateful that they know what's best for us and protect our children and us from ourselves. Many of us will never have the resources and time to travel overseas. Few Americans have pensions anymore. The only people that do have pensions are government workers and some of the old line Union factory jobs. if you take the time to research whats actually going on in the US economy you'd find the power and wealth is all coalescing in DC and the big cities while the rural areas are dying off. The regulation which is arbitrary and capricious based on who you support politically is choking out small business start ups (the key to US economic growth) and the education system is failing at all levels.

    The polls that I have worked at this election season are jammed. I suspect this will be a record turnout vote in the US.

    Trump is not a fascist. He's a New York real estate Baron that realized that the country is failing. A businessman in a failed state can't make the money that they can in a booming economy. His attitude, abrasiveness and overall obnoxious behavior is endemic in New York and the real estate industry. He is not a politician and he can't understand the millions of worthless bureaucrats that create no value to the citizens (his potential customers). He's a threat to the system and they will stop at nothing to make sure he does not change it or alter it in a way that they bureaucrats lose their power. DC doesn't even pretend anymore. The fact they ran a candidate that has not run on any policies, programs or items that she's going to change or implement (other than give aways on housing and school loans) shows just how much contempt they have for 1/2 of the country.
    God bless America.
    I hope a Trump victory will spread to GB as we are currently ****ed and worse is to come.
    Trump victory - a new prosperity and hope
    Democrat victory - the end of civilisation as we know it[/QUOTE]

    Easy to make sweeping generalisations (as a Trump devotee, I suppose that comes as second nature), less easy to make them stand up.

    "The people you are running into in France are not your typical Americans". Perhaps not, at least as far as your definition of a "typical American" goes, in that they have passports, and travel. I've met many Americans, either as a result of holidaying in places like Costa Rica and Mexico where a LOT af those from the States go, or to the Normandy beaches and war memorials at Omaha & Utah beaches and the infamous gun emplacement at Point d'Hoc, not very far I suspect from where Mrs O resides. They are normal folks, family of those who fought and in many cases died in the liberation of Europe, workers in the oil industry (yes, workers), colleagues in the IT industry who set up their fledgling business in Florida and now have offices across the USA (none by the way in DC). All are/were as far as memory serves me, workers, even those you might call bureaucrats (teachers, sanitation operatives, health care workers, etc)

    You do them and all the others who DO have the wherewithal to travel a disservice by characterising them as anything other than hard working folks who have saved in order to travel and see more of the world.

    Trump is a FAILED real estate "baron", having been gifted a fortune;

    "Trump received around $500 million from his father in gifts and other wealth transfers (in 2024 dollars).[10] Had he invested that money passively in Manhattan real estate, it would have been worth over $80 billion by 2017 instead of the $2.5 billion that Forbes estimate"

    His wealth now is the result of his political endeavours, not his business acumen, and a large part of that wealth comes from those who would benefit from having the kind of president that Trump would be, authoritarian, dictatorial, unwelcoming of opposition and/or criticism, misogynist, racist, willing to use whatever means he sees fit to achieve the ends he wants, for himself.

    Oh and the economy?

    "The US economy expanded an annualized 2.8% in Q3 2024, below 3% in Q2 and forecasts of 3%, the advance estimate from the BEA showed. Personal spending increased at the fastest pace since Q1 2023 (3.7% vs 2.8% in Q2), boosted by a 6% surge in consumption of goods (6% vs 3%) and a robust spending on services (2.6% vs 2.7%), mostly prescription drugs, motor vehicles and parts, outpatient services and food services and accommodations. Government consumption also rose more (5% vs 3.1%), led by defense spending. In addition, the contribution from net trade was less negative (-0.56 pp vs -0.9 pp), with both exports (8.9% vs 1%) and imports (11.2% vs 7.6%) soaring, led by capital goods, excluding autos. On the other hand, private inventories dragged 0.17 pp from the growth, after adding 1.05 pp in Q2. Also, fixed investment slowed (1.3% vs 2.3%), led by a decline in structures (-4% vs 0.2%) and residential investment (-5.1% vs -2.8%). Investment in equipment however, soared (11.1% vs 9.8%). source: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis" (you will probably rubbish those statements given their source, but do you have those that support your assertion?)

    It's a question that America needs to answer, and soon...."How can a relatively mature democracy, with an electorate that numbers over 150 million, conjure up a situation where the country has produce two candidates running for the Presidency, neither of which seem able to command a workable majority nor to show that they represent more than their own demographic?" Dis-United States, now and even more so after Tuesday.

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    Workers and working class are increasingly phrases which belong to the last century but which politicos like to use to create friction and ‘class war’

    Anyone who has a job is surely a worker. Most of the income and capital gains tax burden in the UK is born by a small proportion of tax payers yet Labour continues to use rhetoric to divide and attack them.

    The NI hikes will hit us businesses and the lower paid the most as any chance of a pay rise will be most likely swallowed up by the NI employer rate hike. Those who are paid better will still probably get a pay rise as their employers will most likely at that level of pay want to keep them.


    The agriculture inheritance tax changes don’t seem to pay any regard to food ‘ security’ (self sufficiency’.

    Not sure the NHS. needs cash injections rather than huge reform. It will now have a budget of about 190 billion which is more than the total governmental spend in a few European countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    Workers and working class are increasingly phrases which belong to the last century but which politicos like to use to create friction and ‘class war’

    Anyone who has a job is surely a worker. Most of the income and capital gains tax burden in the UK is born by a small proportion of tax payers yet Labour continues to use rhetoric to divide and attack them.

    The NI hikes will hit us businesses and the lower paid the most as any chance of a pay rise will be most likely swallowed up by the NI employer rate hike. Those who are paid better will still probably get a pay rise as their employers will most likely at that level of pay want to keep them.


    The agriculture inheritance tax changes don’t seem to pay any regard to food ‘ security’ (self sufficiency’.

    Not sure the NHS. needs cash injections rather than huge reform. It will now have a budget of about 190 billion which is more than the total governmental spend in a few European countries.
    Strangely (perhaps), agreed on all those points and as a pensioner with zero chance of increasing my earnings I'd happily slice off Starmers gentleman bits given the opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    "Stats as say".......exactly which stats? Migrants into the UK aren't entitled to vote unless and until their immigration status is confirmed, you would suggest it should be otherwise (I suspect there would be a degree of opposition in principle to such a change, here and most certainly in the (dis)United States of America.

    And this level if supposed disenfranchisement is "due to it's antiquated Electoral registration system which is neither effective nor efficient apparently, currently". Says who?

    Trump peddles lies and inaccurate street bev a use it suits his campaign of disinformation and confusion. I thought better of you, but the last post could have been penned by a Trump staffer wanting to diminish any criticism emanating from these shores.

    You might not like what has happened in the UK since Brexit, but unlike the majority of those who've in this country you had the opportunity to exile yourself and took it. The majority are still here, still working, still going on hoiday ( here and abroad), still being educated from pre-school to University and beyond, still having their ills addressed by the NHS, still being cared for in their twilight years. We may not be all you would want, but we are what we need to be and compared to the French you seem to prefer I'll take Brits (of all creeds and colours), any day.
    The U.K. Government on May 24th 2024 published a Electoral registration "response" to the Select Commitee report I quoted.
    This was published under the 2022 to 2024 Sunak Conservative govt for their ridiculous "Levelling Up within Communities & Housing & the Electoral Commission which had required answers from then said PM Sunak.

    Clive Betts, Chair of the Levelling Up, Housing & communities (LUHC) Commitee gave a very long address on the matter, for the record on March 24th 2024, so I'd suggest you read it in full via the UK Parliament Committee papers for Public view.
    A simpler version for you can be found on the net under the banner "Millions of voters face being disenfranchised at next General Election". (If you cannot find it I shall endeavour to dig a link up for you).

    The Government had commissioned Joseph Rowntree Foundation of York, a Charity who conducts & funds research aimed at solving Poverty in the UK which might inspire you to understand serious issues regarding lack of housing in the UK as JRF bought the problems of the "Electoral-register" into the debate originally via one of their monthly opinions papers for Govt recommendations which i read in full & I suggest you do likewise as my Dad had contributed to it 'voluntarily' for folks to digest on the need for affordable housing & the lack of it links to poverty.
    Dad was an Actuary helping businesses predict financial impact of their strategic decision making, notably investment enterprises before changing direction to become a 'free-spirit' refurbishing stone built properties via a Stone reclamation business he set up in France, so housing & risk was his dabble before he retired at 60 & as many know he is tagged a Leeds Utd Superfan, which he'll admit is a kinda risky business too. Bought up on a council estate in Leeds, the son of East European migrants he has an interest in affordable housing hence his freebie help for Joseph Rowntree Foundation off/on & obviously has an understanding of the word 'migrant' & all its meanings, as do I.

    Further, while dictionary definitions sometimes distinguish 'immigrants' – people who are, or intend to be, settled in their new country – from 'migrants' who are termed temporarily resident, 'immigrant' and 'migrant' (as well as 'foreigner') are often used interchangeably in Public debate and even among Research specialists reports, such are the abnormalities within English legal language, please note the term migrant is legal to use in the UK but there is NO internationally accepted legal definition of the term as a migrant is someone who has left their home either within their borders for a variety of reasons which can be temporary or permanent and the UK Observatory defines the migrant population as the foreign born population of the UK from different nationalities crossing boundaries with the intention of staying at least one year.
    Migrant workers are people who come to countries to work seasonal, part time & full time - The United Nations & EU have condemned the term illegal to define people moving across borders as the term is dehumanising, immoral & contributes to demonising of all migrant communities who have been authorised to settle.

    Leeds Mad threads are for 'Public Debate' as far as I'm concerned & my term 'migrant' was taken from a said UK government Public address, namely a UK government white paper, for the record.
    So I'd suggest you take that matter up with the appropriate UK Select Commitee Bench in the House of Lords or alternatively get a life & join me in France for a while & see the UK from a different perspective than 'yours view is presently' with regard to how the establishment conducts itself in who is actually in the UK & registered on it's Electoral records whilst the UK Government refuses to withdraw from the EU 1998 Human Rights convention.
    https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u...-consequences/

    Further, All qualifying Commonwealth citizens currently must be resident in the UK and either have leave to remain in the UK or not require leave. Your leave to remain can be indefinite, or time limited. You can see if you have leave to remain in the UK on letters from the Home Office, or by using the Home Office’s tool which was also the case prior to Brexit, many came to work as 'migrants' or immigrants or foreigner in terminology and most public documents used the term "migrant" as did I before Brexit & still now.

    It's a shame that your obsessive "Pro Brit sabre rattling stance" is not replicated more positively towards supporting Leeds United Football club in any capacity onto this great free Public Forum, for the record.

    Keep digging at me mate as you wish - as water off this Euro ducks chicks back.

    https://www.migrantdemos.org.uk/can-i-vote
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...ings/cbp-8985/
    Obtaining Citizenship prior to Brexit for many 'migrants' ?
    The important number to remember when applying for British Citizenship is six years. This is the total time you need to live in the UK before you qualify for naturalisation. This is the sum of five years before receiving your Document Certifying Permanent Residence, and then one year with permanent residence status before applying for British Citizenship.

    To obtain British Citizenship, you must also have satisfied the following below requirements & many did (including my Grandparents) hence my legal terminology of 'migrants' unlike the appalling misuse of the term of some UK broadcasters like GB news while spreading its right-wing poison that all migrants are illegal & arrive in the UK via the abhorrent practice of people smuggling gangs.

    1.you cannot have been outside the UK for more than 450 days in the past five years

    2.you cannot have been outside the UK for more than 90 days in the past 12 months

    3.you cannot be in violation of any UK immigration laws, and you must be of good character.
    4.you can prove you will continue to live in the UK.
    you have passed the Life in the UK Test and English language requirements.
    5.If your spouse or legal partner is a British citizen, there are different requirements. Parents can apply on behalf of children under 18 years. They will be exempt from having to sit the Life in the UK Test.

    If you read everything I suggest in the time it will take, then hopefully we will see you back on here in May 2025 when our team of Johnnie Foreigners & migrants & immigrants lifts the Championship Trophy including Frenchmen one of which you verbally abused publicly which caused upset & to be fair nearly finished my involvement on here.
    Just saying
    Totty Xxxx

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    Our voter laws are a hodge-podge in the the US as they administered by each of the states. However, there is an over- riding federal law that you must be a US citizen to vote in federal elections.

    Many states have no voter ID requirement. You just tell the polling station your address and you vote. You also have voter registration at the motor vehicle license branch so when they get a drivers license they can also register to vote. Many states issue drivers licenses to non citizens. You also have a lot of states that don't clear off dead people or residents that have moved out of state. The final absurdity is that many states automatically mail out ballots to any resident that's ever been registered at that address. My co worker lives in an apartment and received 8 ballots a month agao for people that listed this address at one time or another. She could vote 8 times if she didn't have ethics. Many don't. Especially from one party. It's how you'll see some precincts consistent vote in the 80%+ range but they have little or no activity at the polling stations. Some precincts actually had over 100% turnout.

    These states are all "blue" (democrat). It's obvious that the voting process is flawed but any attempt to correct concerns on cheating are met with roars of racism, voter suppression and other such nonsense. Even a simple thing like deleting dead people when the death certificate is filed or a simple state issued photo ID and elimination of automatic mailing of ballots is voter suppression.

    The cheating consistently runs one way and is getting more and more common. It's really starting to affect the belief in the integrity of the US election system and is undermining the core belief in our country. It's incredibly ironic when the US questions the integrity of another countries election system, as we are known to do, when ours is not any better and often worse than many other countries.

    I think the election fraud should be a felony which in the US is a pretty serious matter. Loss of voting rights, loss of ability to run for office and often jail time. It's a mark on your criminal record for life. If you are government worker and convicted you lose your pension.

    A lot of people fought and died for the right of all of us to vote. It's considered trite and old fashioned by many but the option of rule by a dictator or oligarchy is not particularly attractive to many.

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    World has changed for the worse. As a 10 year old in 72 i had no choice as family decided to move to the other side of the world for the term BETTER LIFE. At the time that's what it was as it was hard but migrants mainly Europeans worked hard society thrived as European traditions were introduced which in term the country changed it's name to the LUCKY COUNTRY. After the 70s they opened up immigration introducing firstly Asians whom in turn destroyed what was build by not blending in with society creating there own towns and hate or some people call it racism started. Further down the road they brought in all the middle eastern namely Lebanese whom in turn brought in terror extortions and illegality like drugs so on. Taking over bikie gangs and living towns and city's in fear as people don't know what will happen next. Lastly introducing the Sudanese whom in turn brought in gangs whom run around with machete knives guns and anything they can get illegally breaking into house stealing cars and murdering and anything else in there way. Lucky Country has become a Farse where locals are prisoners in there own country and Europeans are the minority. Asians Afrikaans middle eastern, Asians include Indian's and Chinese run this country and the so called Nazis are BS it's just young Locals whom have had enough and want to correct what the so called do gooder's oldies have created and are Fed up. And i can see it is not only here but they have taken over all over western societies even though they were warned that this would happen they went ahead and still bring in boat loads every year.
    It has changed so much I'm ashamed to call myself Australian as i don't feel it anymore as all the love I had for this country and it's people has quickly evaporated. PS Football is no different look at yourselves owned by criminals and foreigner corporations with only one interest at heart money and it's so bad most of the top teams have not gotten any English born players of white colour.
    Enjoy the ride as I for one have given up worrying for the next generations to come as they won't know any better as the pre descendant's have destroyed what once was called humanity with greed, destruction and fear.
    Hail whoever can save us.
    Last edited by ozleeds; 04-11-2024 at 02:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Our voter laws are a hodge-podge in the the US as they administered by each of the states. However, there is an over- riding federal law that you must be a US citizen to vote in federal elections.

    Many states have no voter ID requirement. You just tell the polling station your address and you vote. You also have voter registration at the motor vehicle license branch so when they get a drivers license they can also register to vote. Many states issue drivers licenses to non citizens. You also have a lot of states that don't clear off dead people or residents that have moved out of state. The final absurdity is that many states automatically mail out ballots to any resident that's ever been registered at that address. My co worker lives in an apartment and received 8 ballots a month agao for people that listed this address at one time or another. She could vote 8 times if she didn't have ethics. Many don't. Especially from one party. It's how you'll see some precincts consistent vote in the 80%+ range but they have little or no activity at the polling stations. Some precincts actually had over 100% turnout.

    These states are all "blue" (democrat). It's obvious that the voting process is flawed but any attempt to correct concerns on cheating are met with roars of racism, voter suppression and other such nonsense. Even a simple thing like deleting dead people when the death certificate is filed or a simple state issued photo ID and elimination of automatic mailing of ballots is voter suppression.

    The cheating consistently runs one way and is getting more and more common. It's really starting to affect the belief in the integrity of the US election system and is undermining the core belief in our country. It's incredibly ironic when the US questions the integrity of another countries election system, as we are known to do, when ours is not any better and often worse than many other countries.

    I think the election fraud should be a felony which in the US is a pretty serious matter. Loss of voting rights, loss of ability to run for office and often jail time. It's a mark on your criminal record for life. If you are government worker and convicted you lose your pension.

    A lot of people fought and died for the right of all of us to vote. It's considered trite and old fashioned by many but the option of rule by a dictator or oligarchy is not particularly attractive to many.
    We may disagree on a great many things, clearly we do on certain political matters, but as to statement and the sentiment expressed in your final sentence, AMEN

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    Must admit I've been biting my tongue on this one, at least in terms of floating my thoughts and opinions out there as someone who's experienced (and voted in) elections on both sides of the Pond.

    I guess the one observation I would make is that I really don't care for the way in which the presidential election is run. It isn't particularly democratic because, as it turns out, individual votes don't carry equal value.

    It probably hasn't been overly emphasized in the UK, but the final result is determined by votes from an electoral college, which is essentially a combination of each individual state treated as a "first past the post" unit, with the number of votes they assign loosely based on the population of that state.

    To "win" the electoral college, a candidate has to garner 270 votes.

    Forty-odd of the states lean fairly solidly in one direction or the other (Red=Republican ("sort of" Conservative), Blue=Democrat ("sort of" Labour)), so their electoral votes are all but nailed-on as assigned to one candidate or the other as they are extremely unlikely to flip the other way..

    Of the remaining states, they are either small fry (e.g. New Hampshire, which, though fairly purple. only has four electoral college votes) or larger "swing" states (the seven you've probably been hearing about in the news) where the presidential race is really taking place because of the number of electoral college votes they carry.

    An individual vote in a swing state is therefore likely to be much more important than any vote in any of the other states.

    Seems wrong to me: not that the majority can always be relied upon to vote sensibly, but it seems to me that the president should be the candidate receiving the most individual votes from individual people, not effectively chosen by a handful of larger purple states that may not look like much of the rest of the country.

    All that said, it could absolutely be argued that a state like New Hampshire has an outsized influence on the Senate, for which each of the fifty states elect two candidates.

    The House of Representatives is, as its name suggests, much more representative as it is made up of officials elected from similarly sized distructs (although there seems to be an awful lot of gerrymandering of these for political purposes).

    I'll shut up as this stuff tends to get me annoyed and I can feel my hackles rising...

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