O/T:- Betting odds for US Election [The USA Politics Thread]

[Notsohumblepie]

Nope. There are often people behind them who seem competent, but I can't remember the last time a leadership race was fought between two outstanding candidates.

Village Bully versus Village Idiot . That should make us all feel safe in our beds for the next four years

[Mapperleypie]

The two possible outcomes are

Trump wins and declares that it was a great and fair election

Trump loses and declares that the election was rigged

He has the temperament of a petulant six year old.

[1955pie]

You're spouting much of what the left-wing fear-mongers' are spouting. What about concentration camps, forcing women to not have abortions if they want them, splitting up mixed race families and making the white partner marry another white partner. The list goes on and on - why didn't you mention those?

The idea behind the tariffs, to anyone who understands the reason behind them, is to force massive US corporations to invest in America or to stop them from moving their factories overseas.

This in turn will create US jobs and take people off welfare. The US is the biggest economy in the world and it has been decimated by Democrat policies over the last 30 years.

You have to have lived there or have close contacts in the US to understand why nearly 75 million people voted for him in 2020.

GM reducing production to nothing in Michigan, Apple making nearly all of their products in China, John Deere planning on closing their Pennsylvanian production plant and moving it to Mexico - again the list goes on and on. Trump threatened John Deere a few months ago with 200% tariffs if they moved to Mexico and they reversed their plans. See it works and he wasn't even President.

Just as you and many others on here find it unbelievable how anyone could vote for Trump, for me I can't understand why anyone wouldn't. I am connected to a large business and commerce company and to me, his plans all stack up - I really have given up on people who don't get it.

A strengthening dollar makes imports expensive - therefore, it's more cost effective to produce within the US - isn't THAT Trump's plan? The only thing that the US doesn't currently have is cheap energy - but he has a plan for that too. Incidentally his plan was also adopted by Kamala a few days after Trump announced it.

As Driller rightly says, a strengthening dollar makes imports cheaper. So Trump then applies tariffs to make them all more expensive.
Then other countries impose their own tariffs and suddenly we are on a path to global depression.

[i961pie]

The two possible outcomes are

Trump wins and declares that it was a great and fair election

Trump loses and declares that the election was rigged

He has the temperament of a petulant six year old.

Some of the things he says would be embarrassing even coming from a six year old.

[BigFatPie]

The US election isn’t even about politics anymore it’s about hoping that the non-*** offender, non-criminal, non-fake religious anti abortionist, non hang their vice president, non-will claim they’ve won when they’ve lost person doesn’t get in. And that’s before you get into normalish things like tariffs.

Wasn’t it nice when we took all this stuff for granted?

[Med Pie]

I can see how Trumps policies appeal to working class, patriotic Americans (why aren't we more like that?) but Trump the man, yuk.

[keldsyke]

I can see how Trumps policies appeal to working class, patriotic Americans (why aren't we more like that?) but Trump the man, yuk.

Agree completely, what I love about the States is the pride people take in flying the US flag, also little things like letting servicemen on a plane first, for all that’s not good there’s a lot that is good that we could learn from.

[Lullapie]

Why are you so confrontational? Was I rude to you? In any case I didn't see you actually contest any of the points I made, just some unwarranted assumptions about me and a laundry list of unrelated arguments.

By the way, a strong dollar does not make imports to the US more expensive. It's actually the opposite.

My bad - I apologise unreservedly over the dollar comment. It was a stupid mistake to make.

I didn't feel like I was being confrontational. Again, I apologise if I came across that way, it certainly wasn't my intention.

I was specifically referring to the comments that you were comparing Trump's comments about tariffs and deportations in the same way that they have been interpreted by the anti-Trump media and gave some examples of how the threat of tariffs would stop many US companies moving their businesses overseas.

I also couldn't see what relevance the deportation of illegal immigrants bore on the economy, apart from the fact that unscrupulous employers would have to employ legitimate people and pay them a legitimate wage.

[Lullapie]

The two possible outcomes are

Trump wins and declares that it was a great and fair election

Trump loses and declares that the election was rigged

He has the temperament of a petulant six year old.

For Trump to win, he needs to win convincingly. He isn't the first Presidential candidate to complain about how the election that he lost was run though.

According to conjecture - Al Gore was cheated in the 2000 election, and didn't accept defeat until the middle of December.

Hillary Clinton was still casting doubts on the legitimacy of the 2016 election almost a year after it had been completed.


There has been some voting irregularity already which has gone through the courts. The case wasn't lead by Trump, but by the Republican Party themselves, who won the case in Pennsylvania.

[i961pie]

My bad - I apologise unreservedly over the dollar comment. It was a stupid mistake to make.

I didn't feel like I was being confrontational. Again, I apologise if I came across that way, it certainly wasn't my intention.

I was specifically referring to the comments that you were comparing Trump's comments about tariffs and deportations in the same way that they have been interpreted by the anti-Trump media and gave some examples of how the threat of tariffs would stop many US companies moving their businesses overseas.

I also couldn't see what relevance the deportation of illegal immigrants bore on the economy, apart from the fact that unscrupulous employers would have to employ legitimate people and pay them a legitimate wage.

The problem is that legitimate people don't want to pick fruit and be bending over all day picking squash, potatoes etc. That's the problem over here the farmers/growers can't get English people to do those jobs.