O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[SinceSept1959]

So did those 14 years of the Tories improve standards? Or did they drag the country into the gutter?

I could offer you a menu of "word salad, " ala Mrs Balls or Ms Cooper , but I'm not a politician and don't lie either.

The Tories hardly dragged "the country into the gutter " but if you think that's the case, I hope that after five years of this shower , we're not submerged, deep, into the cess pit and still have a country we can vaguely recognise.
Under three terms of Blairism, standards certainly declined , but the fortunes of himself, his family and HR Lawyers , certainly improved?.
The fact remains, that under every Labour PM the economy has been trashed rather than improved.

As is often quoted ,
" Socialism works until they've run out of everyone else's money!"
Not since Harold Wilson, has any Labour Gov't been remotely socialist. Merely a different colour of capitalists without the necessary nous.

[Elite_Pie]

The Tories hardly dragged "the country into the gutter "

For centuries Great Britain had a reputation for truth, decency and fairness. Brexit and Boris Johnson managed to trash that once proud reputation in just a couple of years, where lies and deceit became what we were known for. Europe in particular doesn't like us much, and with good reason.

[Med Pie]

For centuries Great Britain had a reputation for truth, decency and fairness. Brexit and Boris Johnson managed to trash that once proud reputation in just a couple of years, where lies and deceit became what we were known for. Europe in particular doesn't like us much, and with good reason.

That's nothing to do with Brexit, ok, it maybe made them dislike us even more but the French in particular have always hated us, they even veto'd our first application to join what was then the Common market.

What the EU allowed, was the importation of cheap labour and the export of what were once, well paying jobs to poorer nations where they could pay people less. Off the top of my head, was it Nissan who moved their entire, operation to Poland?

[keldsyke]

For centuries Great Britain had a reputation for truth, decency and fairness. Brexit and Boris Johnson managed to trash that once proud reputation in just a couple of years, where lies and deceit became what we were known for. Europe in particular doesn't like us much, and with good reason.

You forgot Tony Blair and the Weapons of Mass Destruction lies was first.... more balance!

[Elite_Pie]

You forgot Tony Blair and the Weapons of Mass Destruction lies was first.... more balance!

The decision to invade Iraq was supported by the Conservative party who were in opposition at the time.

Even more balance!

[Lullapie]

The decision to invade Iraq was supported by the Conservative party who were in opposition at the time.

Even more balance!

But the Tories would ALWAYS support a Republican, US President. No news there.

[bule1]

The decision to invade Iraq was supported by the Conservative party who were in opposition at the time.

Even more balance!

To be fair here the Conservatives would have not been able to see the full "evidence of WMDs" that Blair used to justify the war. That was the clincher that got backing of other parties.