Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

Neil Oliver talks about the rabid left, hilarious, This election has them out in force

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPeTnocVKs

That’ll be the same Neil Oliver who described lockdown as ‘the biggest single mistake in world history’, who likened opposing the government’s anti COVID strategies to standing in defiance of Nazi Germany, who condemned the efforts to vaccinate UK children against COVID and who makes regular claims of fear mongering over climate change.

He’ll be worth listening to then, not surprised he works for GBNews.

[MadAmster]

That’ll be the same Neil Oliver who described lockdown as ‘the biggest single mistake in world history’, who likened opposing the government’s anti COVID strategies to standing in defiance of Nazi Germany, who condemned the efforts to vaccinate UK children against COVID and who makes regular claims of fear mongering over climate change.

He’ll be worth listening to then, not surprised he works for GBNews.

Ah but, yeah but, no but rA... those of a certain persuasion actually agree with Oliver and think the rest of the world to be eejits. Lockdown was a sensible thought, vaccinating people was a good idea, climate change is real.

Lockdown. It looked like Covid was going to be huger than it ended up being and not locking down could have wiped out half the population or more if not checked. IMO, the only thing wrong was that it went on longer than was probably necessary. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. However, they were on a hiding to nothing. Damned if they did something, damned if they didn't.

Vaccines. Not enough time to go through all the tests normally needed for new meds and vaccines to get approval. Again, they were on a hiding to nothing. Damned if they did something, damned if they didn't.

Climate change. The climate is nothing like it was when I was a kid. We can now get all 4 seasons in a single day. When it's sunny, it's a heatwave. When it rains, it pours. When it's windy, it's always a gale. Far more storms, far more typhoons/hurricanes the world over.

[MadAmster]

Elections? Looks like Germany is falling apart at the seams, politically. New elections predicted in the first quarter of 2025 and the far right AfD is expected to get a landslide. The Dutch coalition is starting to fall apart. At Minister's Questions yesterday, the Immigration Minister was defending her new budget, and failing dramatically. From 2027, she's reducing the budget for the IND (Immigratie en Naturalisatie Dienst) and the COA (Centraal Orgaan opvang asielzoekers) by 80%. She failed to address the shortfall she's planning for. Over the next few years they intend to allow less immigrants, be they coming here to work, study or to apply for asylum. There's a huge backlog of asylum claims. They're stopping the funding now and laying people off who work in the 2 departments. How do they intend to clear the backlog? How are they going to fund it?

The role of the lower house in the Netherlands, is to act as a control mechanism for Cabinet plans. The Minister was unable (or unwilling) to answer MPs questions. It was a debacle. She really ought to be sacked and replaced with someone capable as she, clearly, isn't.

I've said all along that this coalition wouldn't last long. Looks like I'll be right.

For me, the biggest problem is that the far right PVV, who currently have 39 of the 150 seats and is the largest party of the 15 with 1 or more seats, will get significantly more at the election.

How many more will follow and see the EU fall apart?

[Trickytreesreds]

Elections? Looks like Germany is falling apart at the seams, politically. New elections predicted in the first quarter of 2025 and the far right AfD is expected to get a landslide. The Dutch coalition is starting to fall apart. At Minister's Questions yesterday, the Immigration Minister was defending her new budget, and failing dramatically. From 2027, she's reducing the budget for the IND (Immigratie en Naturalisatie Dienst) and the COA (Centraal Orgaan opvang asielzoekers) by 80%. She failed to address the shortfall she's planning for. Over the next few years they intend to allow less immigrants, be they coming here to work, study or to apply for asylum. There's a huge backlog of asylum claims. They're stopping the funding now and laying people off who work in the 2 departments. How do they intend to clear the backlog? How are they going to fund it?

The role of the lower house in the Netherlands, is to act as a control mechanism for Cabinet plans. The Minister was unable (or unwilling) to answer MPs questions. It was a debacle. She really ought to be sacked and replaced with someone capable as she, clearly, isn't.

I've said all along that this coalition wouldn't last long. Looks like I'll be right.

For me, the biggest problem is that the far right PVV, who currently have 39 of the 150 seats and is the largest party of the 15 with 1 or more seats, will get significantly more at the election.

How many more will follow and see the EU fall apart?

I despair at the deniers as to the European rise of the right.
Folks have had enough of the same old soft left/liberal leaders, who think the everyday person on the street. is there to do as they are told and like it.

Much as this will trigger RA, the flooding of immigration in Europe has fuelled this. Crime/ poverty/ social friction has seen cultural identity eroded and the rise in crime and terrorism.
Poland says no. Hungary says no, despite EU howls of protest. They have not had one jot of the problems the rest of Europe has.
Had the EU / governments resisted/regulated it, there would be no need for AFD/ National rally/ Brothers of Italy/ Reform etc.

Keep ignoring it and watch what happens

[Trickytreesreds]

That’ll be the same Neil Oliver who described lockdown as ‘the biggest single mistake in world history’, who likened opposing the government’s anti COVID strategies to standing in defiance of Nazi Germany, who condemned the efforts to vaccinate UK children against COVID and who makes regular claims of fear mongering over climate change.

He’ll be worth listening to then, not surprised he works for GBNews.

Lock down has seen debts and taxes go through the roof. The knock on effect will go on for decades. It has since been shown that those jabs have crippled many people, in many ways.

Just to point out the flaw in your perfection logic. Sweden went down the no action route. Their deaths were less per population and their economy didn't get a kick in the nuts either.

As for climate change, no one ever says the climate isn't changing, but it always has. The fear mongering is in over drive and lots of people are getting rich off it.

Much as you hate GB news sunshine, your beloved BBC are behind alot of the fear mongering and never challenge the facts. Or they just ignore the topic completely when their agenda is in peril. Brainwashed, you really are.

[ramAnag]

Lock down has seen debts and taxes go through the roof. The knock on effect will go on for decades. It has since been shown that those jabs have crippled many people, in many ways.

Just to point out the flaw in your perfection logic. Sweden went down the no action route. Their deaths were less per population and their economy didn't get a kick in the nuts either.

As for climate change, no one ever says the climate isn't changing, but it always has. The fear mongering is in over drive and lots of people are getting rich off it.

Much as you hate GB news sunshine, your beloved BBC are behind alot of the fear mongering and never challenge the facts. Or they just ignore the topic completely when their agenda is in peril. Brainwashed, you really are.

Hmmm…vaccines or no vaccines? BBC or GB News? Let’s think. Were you vaccinated?

Population density of Sweden…26 per square km.
Population density of UK…286 per square km. Great comparison!

[Trickytreesreds]

Hmmm…vaccines or no vaccines? BBC or GB News? Let’s think. Were you vaccinated?

Population density of Sweden…26 per square km.
Population density of UK…286 per square km. Great comparison!

again the ignorance kicks in. The Swedish population is mostly on the coastal areas. It doesnt matter if they live in one city or 200.
They introduced targetted measures and it worked, whilst the rest of the western world panicked like it was the black death
Your hero Starmer wanted even more draconian measures( he shows those traits today now in office) and that would have really screwed us over.
https://theconversation.com/did-swed...ly-down-188338

NB , I jabbed for the first year and haven't bothered since. Had COVID twice, and had worse colds.

But the Orwellian west does love population control measures.

[ramAnag]

again the ignorance kicks in. The Swedish population is mostly on the coastal areas. It doesnt matter if they live in one city or 200.
They introduced targetted measures and it worked, whilst the rest of the western world panicked like it was the black death
Your hero Starmer wanted even more draconian measures( he shows those traits today now in office) and that would have really screwed us over.
https://theconversation.com/did-swed...ly-down-188338

NB , I jabbed for the first year and haven't bothered since. Had COVID twice, and had worse colds.

But the Orwellian west does love population control measures.

Okay…daft answer, but have it your own way…I’m guessing it’ll all be the fault of either Starmer or immigrants in the increasingly wacky world of TTR anyway.

You might also want to compare the Covid death rate with other, infinitely more comparable, Scandinavian countries before holding up the Swedish model as some sort of panacea. Just a thought.

[swaledale]

Hmmm…vaccines or no vaccines? BBC or GB News? Let’s think. Were you vaccinated?

Population density of Sweden…26 per square km.
Population density of UK…286 per square km. Great comparison!

As I've said many times RA, you can't argue with a sick mind. And judging from the US election result there are an awful lot of dumb people out there who would rather believe lies, misinformation and outright fake news pushed out by the willing patsies of billionaires and yet never seem to question why these billionaires are doing it?

Frankly if a person even admits to watching GB News (other than to establish its the home of disinformation) and then defends it, then their cognitive reasoning skills are clearly lacking. I mean even the majority of the people presenting on there don't believe what they are saying, its just a paid gig.

Its pointless debating with these people, they are cult followers, swallowing then parroting stuff they hear.

[ramAnag]

As I've said many times RA, you can't argue with a sick mind. And judging from the US election result there are an awful lot of dumb people out there who would rather believe lies, misinformation and outright fake news pushed out by the willing patsies of billionaires and yet never seem to question why these billionaires are doing it?

Frankly if a person even admits to watching GB News (other than to establish its the home of disinformation) and then defends it, then their cognitive reasoning skills are clearly lacking. I mean even the majority of the people presenting on there don't believe what they are saying, its just a paid gig.

Its pointless debating with these people, they are cult followers, swallowing then parroting stuff they hear.

I know…and I recognise there’s little point in arguing with ‘Capt. Yes, but, no, but GBeebies says…’, but you have to challenge nonsense sometimes don’t you? Otherwise you end up with mad men in charge.