Reply With QuoteI don't think anyone deserves to be run over...Originally Posted by Med Pie
Whilst their behaviour might not be good, that is for the police and authorities to stop, not some random in a car
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I'm sure that many of you have seen the report about Israeli fans being attacked in Holland, well it seems the Israeli's brought it on themselves. Booing the minutes silence for Spain's flood victims and chants such as 'there are no schools in Gaza coz we killed all the kids', going on a rampage outside the stadium then getting their arses kicked.
I usually despise Owen Jones but he is right with his stance on Gaza et al and I do believe, that you can validly criticise and condemn Israel, without being antisemitic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clHlvgOPrWY&t=306s
Why do Jews and the mainstream media, constantly portray Jews as victims when they behave like this and I've seen it in other places when travelling.
On a separate not, have a squint at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=907YKZkZjJ8&t=203s
Last edited by SwalePie; 09-11-2024 at 11:47 AM. Reason: Fixed off topic prefix
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I don't think anyone deserves to be run over...
Whilst their behaviour might not be good, that is for the police and authorities to stop, not some random in a car
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Hopefully not meant like this but, as much as I am repulsed by the actions of the Israeli state and many Israelis who support them I find references to Jews in this way distasteful. It's profiling by religion not actions.
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Wow ........that reads like an article from Der Sturmer . I don't think Jews, especially those living in London, would recognise your characterisation of the MSM
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I suppose it beats getting your news from 30p Lee.
People can create a case it was a massive AS attack but the Israeli fans are of an age where they are doing or will have done national service with the IDF. We have seen them cause trouble before, in Athens, and if you want evidence of the way their government protects them from any responsibility for their actions, look no further than the story of the English girl gang raped in Cyprus by young Israelis, who went on to be the one found guilty.
Spare me the lecture about hating Jews, btw, I didn't even mention them until this sentence. Jews and Israelis are two separate groups.
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I thought I'd made my view on the separation of Jews v Israel clear in both the title and the body of the thread.
My dig was at the media which none of the respondents have even mentioned in their rush to be offended. Gangs of Israeli thugs, chanting obscene songs about war crimes in Gaza, run amok in another country and it's a 'pogrom', an antisemitic act when they get a reaction, it was no such thing.
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As with many things all is not as B&W as with Notts. Whilst my sympathies lie with Israel, their right to have a state (though it was done badly), the Palestinian (Iran's) obstinacy in agreeing to a Palestian state etc I am disgusted at the ever increasing violence towards civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon (was a friendly western facing country in my time). Obviously hindered by groups developing their command centres in civilian infrastructure whose sole purpose is to drive Israel out and get rid of a lot of Jews in the process.
A surprising development however is the recent fatwa denouncing the Oct 7th attacks in the first place:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4vw1l8xvdo
The most prominent Islamic scholar in Gaza has issued a rare, powerful fatwa condemning Hamas’s 7 October 2023 attack on Israel, which triggered the devastating war in the Palestinian territory.
I wonder how long Professor Dr Salman al-Dayah will now last.
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The reaction by Israel to the 7th October is understandable but, as you say, the civilian casualties and deaths are not acceptable and beyond reproach. As for the fatwa, I read that yesterday and had a quick thought that his statement could pave the way to a resolution of the current conflict (?). Dr al-Dayah is well respected and has made a number of judgements is the past that have been well received but this one is a very brave statement.
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I doubt if you currently live in Golders Green, that you would appreciate your subtle distinction between religion, and state.
I suspect there won't be many Jews ( not Israelis) in central London this afternoon
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Palestine were being offered two, non contiguous parcels of land, both of which had their water supply etc, at the whim of the Israelis.
This fatwah is all very well but it won't restore the lives or limbs of the poor souls affected, on both sides. I have very little expectation that many (any) of the hostages will come out of this alive either.
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