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Again you didn’t say ‘demographics played a part’ in Harris’ nomination, you literally said she was chosen because she was a black woman. Something for which you’ve provided no evidence, and which is a racist allegation. Neither me nor anymore else brought this up, you did, but apparently it’s the left who likes to make everything about race and gender!

I’ve genuinely no idea how you can put issues like the raping, the self confessed ***ual assaults, the 34 felony counts, and the attempts to subvert democracy into a box marked ‘the stuff you’ve mentioned’ and move on seamlessly to discuss how really the main thing is how bad the left is in general, the dems are in particular and how stuff that everyone apparently agreed upon years ago now makes you right wing(what?). What would Donald Trump have to do for you to say, ‘actually this is a line for me, I wouldn’t vote for him even if I had the chance’?

You seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying that I believe the fact that Harris is a black woman was a factor in her first becoming the VP and then being picked as the presidential candidate. It obviously wasn't the only factor, but I believe it was a fairly major one, if not a deciding one. What makes me think that? Well, the fact that the Dems have relentlessly pushed woke identity politics in recent years. Biden said himself he'd prefer a person of colour and/or a woman to be his VP. Why would he say that if ethnicity and gender weren't important to him and his party?

As for me, I genuinely don't care what gender or ethnicity the president (or anyone) is. I'd vote for the person I think is most likely to bring about positive change.

So that's just what I think. If you think something different, that's fine. If you think had Harris been a white man she'd have landed VP and become the Dem's candidate for president, fine. But I don't think so. That doesn't make me racist - like I said, I couldn't care less about gender and ethnicity. If calling me racist makes all this easier for you then fine, fill your boost, but I honestly think that's a poor way to deal with someone who disagrees with you.

To answer your question "What would Donald Trump have to do for you to say, ‘actually this is a line for me, I wouldn’t vote for him even if I had the chance’?"

If he seemed committed to pushing woke identity politics wherever possible, had no plans to secure the Southern border, and looked hell bent on continuing to stoke the fires of foreign wars, I wouldn't vote for him.

Honestly, if I were an American, what he's done in his private less would be of less importance to me than the direction he'd take the country in. I don't look to politicians for moral or spiritual guidance. I look to them to fix stuff and make the country better, safer, and more prosperous for as many people as possible.