O/T:- Betting odds for US Election [The USA Politics Thread]

[Lullapie]

I would add being to susceptible to blatant lies as well as populist arguments.

I'm thinking Brexit as an example.

You see, there is misinformation from both sides, but the left claim that only the right are doing it. It's a ploy to suppress freedom of speech.

Trump spoke about Fake News in 2016 and he has definitely been a massive victim of this ever since. He'd make a 30 minute long speech and next minute a segment of it is all over the mainstream media, pulling one sentence out from his speech saying how everyone should be fearful because he wants to destroy the world - crazy.




Once they get you thinking that the right is spreading lies, then the next step is for the government to tell you, to only believe what they tell you and listen to nobody else.

That would never happen would it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PogISFr5Hg0

[magpie_mania]

You see, there is misinformation from both sides, but the left claim that only the right are doing it. It's a ploy to suppress freedom of speech.

Trump spoke about Fake News in 2016 and he has definitely been a massive victim of this ever since. He'd make a 30 minute long speech and next minute a segment of it is all over the mainstream media, pulling one sentence out from his speech saying how everyone should be fearful because he wants to destroy the world - crazy.




Once they get you thinking that the right is spreading lies, then the next step is for the government to tell you, to only believe what they tell you and listen to nobody else.

That would never happen would it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PogISFr5Hg0

I am not bothered about left and right especially when used only as a derogatory term for someone who doesn’t agree with you.

I am bothered about truth though which seems in short supply today.

[Lullapie]

I am not bothered about left and right especially when used only as a derogatory term for someone who doesn’t agree with you.

I am bothered about truth though which seems in short supply today.

There was a theme during the US Election, touted by the Republicans. I'm not sure if you heard it or even saw it, but the theme was that it used to be that if someone tried something and failed, you picked yourself up, dust yourself down and got on with it. The Republicans said that the current climate was that if you failed, it wasn't through lack of experience or mistakes that you made, it was because you were a victim. You had the right to feel aggrieved with someone else, be it or person or something that had happened in history because it was THEIR fault not yours.

There were no derogatory terms used, I was pointing out why the world is moving to the right and why those that hang on to their outdated doctrines have been left behind.



What truth are you missing anyway? I don't understand your comment.

You also have obviously read what I wrote but ignored the question I asked directly to you. Was it too complicated or are you citing the fifth?

Do you believe that an individual using their position of power to authorise the murder of someone, is reason for them to be prosecuted? Yes or no answer please.

[magpie_mania]

There was a theme during the US Election, touted by the Republicans. I'm not sure if you heard it or even saw it, but the theme was that it used to be that if try something and fail, you picked yourself up, dusted yourself down and got on with it. The Republicans said that the current climate was that if you failed, it wasn't through lack of experience or mistakes that you made, it was because you were a victim. You had the right to feel aggrieved with someone else, be it or person or something that had happened in history because it was THEIR fault not yours.

There were no derogatory terms used, I was pointing out why the world is moving to the right and why those that hang on to their outdated doctrines have been left behind.



What truth are you missing anyway? I don't understand your comment.

You also have obviously read what I wrote but ignored the question I asked directly to you. Was it too complicated or are you sighting the fifth?

Do you believe that an individual using their position of power to authorise the murder of someone, is reason for them to be prosecuted? Yes or no answer please.

I did not ignore the question.

[Elite_Pie]

You see, there is misinformation from both sides, but the left claim that only the right are doing it.

Yet again from you, complete and utter bullsh!t. Before the Brexit vote and after it, I repeatedly said on here that both sides were telling a pack of lies, but leave told the better ones.

You really are a strange one, you constantly ignore what people have actually said and base your criticism entirely on what you hope they said.

[Lullapie]

Yet again from you, complete and utter bullsh!t. Before the Brexit vote and after it, I repeatedly said on here that both sides were telling a pack of lies, but leave told the better ones.

You really are a strange one, you constantly ignore what people have actually said and base your criticism entirely on what you hope they said.

What does Brexit have to do with the US Election?

[Elite_Pie]

What does Brexit have to do with the US Election?

Nothing, I was commenting generally on you saying "the left claim that only the right are doing it".

If you accept that wasn't the case in the Brexit vote then once again it's no problem.

[Lullapie]

Nothing, I was commenting generally on you saying "the left claim that only the right are doing it".

If you accept that wasn't the case in the Brexit vote then once again it's no problem.

We've had a few ding dongs on here and when it's not about politics, I am generally in agreement with you. I'm not sure if you remember when I said that ALL politicians are the same. I believe that they are all corrupt in one way or another and they have to be that way to get to power. This happens in all forms of life, especially, in my opinion, when dealing with departments of state.

I fully agree that there was probably massive mis-information/lies on both sides. I wasn't in the UK for the Brexit vote, so only followed it from afar.

My comment about the left blaming the right, is my experience in New Zealand and also my very closely following of US Politics since I left school 40 years ago.