David Coote - Referee

[since41]

As the western worlds most powerful man's mate says it's Fake news..

I wonder how much of his dislike translates into his decision-making in matches.

[Bohinen]

As the western worlds most powerful man's mate says it's Fake news..

I wonder how much of his dislike translates into his decision-making in matches.

In fairness, he's only saying what a lot of people think in private. It makes you wonder what Michael Oliver is saying about Man United when he gets drunk.

[Bohinen]

Turns out he was the ref that caved into Michael Oliver On VAR and gave the penalty for West Ham that got Ten Hag sacked. And now I hear he has been called over to the screen to review his decision that Liverpool are **** and Klopp is a ****

[Notts78]

Seconded.
In good company, another arrogant official who thinks he's better than he actually performs !

I wonder if BFP thinks this guy is worthy of being a Notts fan ?

I’d love you to elaborate on what makes him and other officials ‘arrogant’?

[upthemaggies]

As the western worlds most powerful man's mate says it's Fake news..

I wonder how much of his dislike translates into his decision-making in matches.

That's the big question (one that only he can know the true answer to) and regrettably this will only strengthen the case for relying more on VAR, to iron out any personal biases.

No doubt Liverpool fans will now be scrambling around for footage to make a compelling case that Coote has cost them honours and I wouldn't blame them for believing that to be the case, but he made it to the top of his game for a reason and I'd guess that once he entered the field of play he'd go into professional mode and do the job to the best of his ability, Liverpool involved or not.
You can't be seen to be biased though, even if you are able to leave that bias behind in the changing room. I don't know how much of a big deal football will make of this and what the long term impact could look like, but the consequences for the game as a whole could be very significant.

[tripie]

He’s obviously put himself in a terrible, terrible position by letting himself being filmed. The use of ‘German C…’ is also clearly totally unacceptable.

I don’t have much issue with ‘Liverpool were s…’ but the other bits about Klopp aren’t great.

I reckon that’ll be the end of his PL career. It remains to be seen if his whole refereeing career will be done.

On a wider note, there is an awful lot that needs to be done in relation to referees/clubs/players/managers/statements. Some of the stuff over even the last year has been terrible for the image of football and it will be so difficult to rectify.

He didn't say the German C bit, it was someone else on the same recording. Still plenty to get him sacked though.

Regarding the managers statements on refs, it's what the media wants. What do they expect forcing managers to do interviews straight after games when emotions are still high? You can argue it is bad for the image of the game but they obviously think it increases the audience, which is what they care about.

[upthemaggies]

The mood on talkSport is basically that this has put the integrity of all officials on the line.

[tied_up_in_notts]

A very good friend of mine from the Nottinghamshire area (let's say) was a Class 1 official for many years until retiring about five years ago. He never refereed above National League level but served as a linesman and fourth official at hundreds of EFL and Premier League games in his time.

He used to tell me all kinds of Cootesque stories about the managers he hated because of the grief they gave him on the touchline, and which ones were OK etc. But his dislike of certain people was based on the fact that they were pains in the arse and made his job harder, it certainly never led to him being deliberately biased against anybody in his decision-making.

I think any referee or linesman that has reached the top of the game is able to remain professional and unbiased in his decision making, but it's only human to have opinions about certain players and managers who constantly give them a hard time. I'm sure that's true of Coote but it was very stupid of him to voice his opinions whilst being recorded and it will probably end his career.

[SinceSept1959]

I’d love you to elaborate on what makes him and other officials ‘arrogant’?

Open your eyes when you watch the games.
If you understand the game the arrogance is pretty obvious !
For example , the whistlers who don't encourage their assistants to assist , overruling better placed assistants and ignoring obvious fouls without it resulting in any advantage for starters !
I assume that you've always been impressed by Mr.Drysdale officiating Notts games and Mr.Swabey who decided that the leg breaking tackle on JJ v Gills wasn't even a foul, despite the v.poor assistant being closer to the incident ? Not to mention the Austin & Brown incidents in the same game ?

[SinceSept1959]

Prior to officials being "miked up,"alongside multi angled camera recording in top division games, there was much more of the "banter" between officials, players and managers etc.
There was more industrial language on the pitch and Gordon Hill, for one, was very popular with players for his earthy language .
The old school referees didn't need to keep stopping the game to lecture players and conveyed their message to players in passing.
I was at a game recently and I asked the assessor why the ref stopped the game , to "lecture " a player for such a trivial incident.
I was amazed when he replied to save the player receiving a caution !
I can only assume he had heard dissent or foul language, because the tackle wasn't even a foul !

The official, in this particular thread title, was a " fast tracked official from a very young age and would have played very few , if any , competitive games .
This is, quite likely , part of the " problem " these days, whereby officials know the Laws but don't always know how to apply them correctly , they don't see what actually happens and quite often spot second incidents rather than the initial foul ?
It's also worth noting the obvious, that the game these days is much quicker, especially as officials climb the pyramid.
Quite a lot of officials despite regular monitoring are not as fit as professional players either.
Just like players making just one Professional Apperance , officials at this level have had to work, very, very, hard to get there, to earn their share of abuse and attractive remuneration.
How some of them ,actually manage to stay there is another question. The guy with 20 years experience on the EFL, rarely performs well, at all, in Notts games. Granted, I was very impressed with his performance on his last visit, a trend that I hope will continue.