Election Year or Fear!

[Trickytreesreds]

It wasn’t me who used that phrase and the person who did wasn’t specifically referring to you, rather the more professional, political bandwagon riders.

I apologise , i misunderstood that.

[Trickytreesreds]

Maggie Oliver here nails it.

She also points out the fact, that a lot of these monsters, who were supposed to be deported, haven't been. Another failing of the justice system and the ECHR being abused.

Brown it seems, needs investigating over this.
Sunak shows himself up, as the uninformed idiot he was, probably didn't care


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/g...en/ar-AA1wRNtd

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...liver-28447178

[MadAmster]

It wasn?t me who used that phrase and the person who did wasn?t specifically referring to you, rather the more professional, political bandwagon riders.

Exactly.

[MadAmster]

With regard to deportations, TTR is correct when he says some who should have been deported haven't been. I have no idea how many. I am aware of one case where the perpetrator, realising that he was likely to be deported after completing his sentence, renounced his Pakistani nationality, he became stateless and, as such, there was nowhere the government of the day could send him. He's still in his old 'hood and it's feasible he could cross paths with victims every day of the week.

Why couldn't he be deported? International Law, so not the UK Justice System or the ECHR at fault but International Law.

Those currently wanting more deportations should look at WHY they haven't happened and, in many cases, it won't be our justice system or the ECHR behind it.

[Trickytreesreds]

With regard to deportations, TTR is correct when he says some who should have been deported haven't been. I have no idea how many. I am aware of one case where the perpetrator, realising that he was likely to be deported after completing his sentence, renounced his Pakistani nationality, he became stateless and, as such, there was nowhere the government of the day could send him. He's still in his old 'hood and it's feasible he could cross paths with victims every day of the week.

Why couldn't he be deported? International Law, so not the UK Justice System or the ECHR at fault but International Law.

Those currently wanting more deportations should look at WHY they haven't happened and, in many cases, it won't be our justice system or the ECHR behind it.

All I'll say to that is, would other countries around the world have allowed it to fester on?
I doubt it very much. Marched up a gang plank of a C130 if necessary. Australia, US wouldn't hesitate.
You put pressure on their countries to take them back, by refusing to issue more VISAS until they do.

Basicly, spineless governments with things to hide.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/home-offi...klash-scandal/

[ramAnag]

I apologise , i misunderstood that.

Fair enough. I disagree with much of what you say and abhor the tactics and contempt for the truth shown by Musk, Trump, Farage et al, but accept your apology and respect your willingness to accept that you were mistaken on this occasion.

[Andy_Faber]

....I disagreed. Oddly others at the meeting who had remained conspicuously silent throughout rushed to say, glad you said that, someone needed to at the end.

....the case went nowhere because the police didn?t consider him a sufficiently reliable witness. Enormously frustrating on many levels.

....going it alone would, I suspect, have been very ill advised.

...all of which IMO relate to a negative human trait of 'following the herd'. That first anecdote rings so true to me (in business settings which I accept are a bit different), I've sat amongst colleagues where the majority will either go with the opinion of a senior/subject 'expert' or won't speak up against same, despite diagreeing with them, either for fear of being accused of an 'ism' of some sort, or having a 'marker' against them for job retention/career progression, or just for being made to look foolish around peers. Then its resident gob****e AF (or notable others) who speak up at risk, with later slaps on the back from the cowards in the room. Having followed the grooming issue a bit and more so over the last few days I find it unbelievable that so many 'professionals' (police, social workers etc) could independantly decide that community harmony mattered more than protecting vulnerable females, there MUST have been a significant amount of 'follow my leader'/herd mentality going on

[MadAmster]

Just seen an interview with the lead detective from the Oxford grooming/rape gang trial where around a dozen got kail sentences. When asked about the inquiry argument that's going on his comment was that priority should be given to implementing the recommendations of the 2022 Jay report rather than throwing money at a new inquiry.

Fancy me agreeing with a, ex copper

[Trickytreesreds]

Just seen an interview with the lead detective from the Oxford grooming/rape gang trial where around a dozen got kail sentences. When asked about the inquiry argument that's going on his comment was that priority should be given to implementing the recommendations of the 2022 Jay report rather than throwing money at a new inquiry.

Fancy me agreeing with a, ex copper

I agree that the recommendations should be implemented.
But it still doesn't explain/ expose those who were complicit is covering this up and allowing it to happen.

This guy is despised by the Labour party, and is becoming a ticking time bomb for them

https://x.com/recusant_raja/status/1877157326173487378


https://x.com/recusant_raja

[MadAmster]

I agree that the recommendations should be implemented.
But it still doesn't explain/ expose those who were complicit is covering this up and allowing it to happen.

This guy is despised by the Labour party, and is becoming a ticking time bomb for them

https://x.com/recusant_raja/status/1877157326173487378


https://x.com/recusant_raja

You obviously know the content of the Jay report better than I do.