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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    When I heard about the gesture, I just assumed it was the media clutching at straws, but having seen it, it's impossible to defend. He knew what he was doing, and I honestly think he just likes ruffling feathers and getting people all worked up so he can then post how they're having a meltdown on X. It's all a big game.
    Yeah exactly the same here. When I saw the headline I thought it would be a somewhat ambiguous gesture and the outrage machine was doing the rest. Then I clicked on the video and thought oh my word.

    To be honest I think he's a troubled man who was bullied and maybe disrespected for a lot of his childhood and adolescence and has now found an army of adoring fans on the right / far right. Every time he wants a dopamine hit he can throw them some red meat by doing something like this and chalk it off as trolling the libs.

    Funnily enough his justification of some people being too eager to call others Nazis or fascists is actually true in a lot of cases, but clearly doesn't apply if you stand there sieg-heiling in front of an adoring crowd for the whole world to see. He's supposed to be the actual genius helping the very stable genius, but I am not too confident in his judgement. I'm certainly not comfortable with him speaking to foreign dictators and potentially deciding the outcome of wars, deciding the future of US government departments, deciding elections in other countries and so on.

    Even if you take for granted that he has the wisdom take the right decisions in those areas, which is far from a given, then how do we know he's doing it for the right reasons and not for the likes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    Yeah exactly the same here. When I saw the headline I thought it would be a somewhat ambiguous gesture and the outrage machine was doing the rest. Then I clicked on the video and thought oh my word.

    To be honest I think he's a troubled man who was bullied and maybe disrespected for a lot of his childhood and adolescence and has now found an army of adoring fans on the right / far right. Every time he wants a dopamine hit he can throw them some red meat by doing something like this and chalk it off as trolling the libs.

    Funnily enough his justification of some people being too eager to call others Nazis or fascists is actually true in a lot of cases, but clearly doesn't apply if you stand there sieg-heiling in front of an adoring crowd for the whole world to see. He's supposed to be the actual genius helping the very stable genius, but I am not too confident in his judgement. I'm certainly not comfortable with him speaking to foreign dictators and potentially deciding the outcome of wars, deciding the future of US government departments, deciding elections in other countries and so on.

    Even if you take for granted that he has the wisdom take the right decisions in those areas, which is far from a given, then how do we know he's doing it for the right reasons and not for the likes?
    I agree. He seems very insecure and a bit damaged. He definitely has an axe to grind and enjoys upsetting the establishment, but often just for the sake of it - because he can - rather than in any meaningful way. Everything's a joke, a potential meme. He's like the unpopular kid living in his parents' basement and trolling people online, but with all the power and visibility in the world.

    I wish he'd just focus on the innovation side of things as he's made truly remarkable achievements there. In recent years, he's undermined all that good stuff by turning into a bizarre cartoon character of a slightly deranged and vengeful autistic guy.

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