O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[slack_pie]

It's not. It's sinister.

Musk has shown time and again he is at best a white-supremacist. For anyone defending the gesture as if it is something different I have some magic beans to sell you.

I'm not defending the gesture at all. It's ridiculous. But from what I've seen of Musk, I think it's more likely a calculated way to stir up rage on the left and get a reaction for his own amusement than a signal of murderous intent.

I agree that it's objectively sinister, but I don't think Musk is actually trying to tell the world he's a Nazi. Musk clearly likes to push buttons. He likes controversial jokes that rock the boat. That's why he's so into Dogecoin - not because it has a real use case or potential, but because he finds it funny. And part of the reason he finds it funny is because other people don't find it funny at all. At least that's how it looks to me.

[Lullapie]

I'm not defending the gesture at all. It's ridiculous. But from what I've seen of Musk, I think it's more likely a calculated way to stir up rage on the left and get a reaction for his own amusement than a signal of murderous intent.

I agree that it's objectively sinister, but I don't think Musk is actually trying to tell the world he's a Nazi. Musk clearly likes to push buttons. He likes controversial jokes that rock the boat. That's why he's so into Dogecoin - not because it has a real use case or potential, but because he finds it funny. And part of the reason he finds it funny is because other people don't find it funny at all. At least that's how it looks to me.

The lefty media fortunately left out his final words - "from my heart to you" - end of fake news.

[Mapperleypie]

The lefty media fortunately left out his final words - "from my heart to you" - end of fake news.

Here is is in full from the Telegraph youtube. Admittedly quite a far left source for you and Med Pie but you may need to hold your nose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb-6Clhs

Definitely not a Nazi salute.

'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command'

[SmiffyPie]

Here is is in full from the Telegraph youtube. Admittedly quite a far left source for you and Med Pie but you may need to hold your nose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb-6Clhs

Definitely not a Nazi salute.

I do agree that it is a "my heart to you" gesture from a person that appears to have a lack of social skills.

[Mapperleypie]

I do agree that it is a "my heart to you" gesture from a person that appears to have a lack of social skills.

If he had not constantly supported white supremacist causes that might be a reasonable conclusion.

[BigFatPie]

If he had not constantly supported white supremacist causes that might be a reasonable conclusion.

A man whos repeatedly expressed support for the far right in Germany of all places performing a Nazi salute at the swearing in off his boss/puppet and theres still a debate about whether he meant it, didnt mean it, is autistic, was joking, was winding the lefties up, etc etc.

Presumably to clear up any misunderstanding President Rapist will disassociate himself from Musk and apologise for offence caused? No, probably not.

[Lullapie]

I do agree that it is a "my heart to you" gesture from a person that appears to have a lack of social skills.

But plenty of business acumen. There's not many on NCM have the same ability.

[Med Pie]

I do agree that it is a "my heart to you" gesture from a person that appears to have a lack of social skills.

That's how most, common sense individuals are interpreting it.

[Lullapie]

Here is is in full from the Telegraph youtube. Admittedly quite a far left source for you and Med Pie but you may need to hold your nose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb-6Clhs

Definitely not a Nazi salute.

'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command'

That's how far left people's views have moved. I am centre-right with my political views, but others are that far left, I look like a fascist to them.

I'm into immigration, social welfare and a robust national health service. They are non-negotiable.

Just to make that clear .

[Jampie]

That's how far left people's views have moved. I am centre-right with my political views, but others are that far left, I look like a fascist to them.

I'm into immigration, social welfare and a robust national health service. They are non-negotiable.

Just to make that clear .

For the record you've never seemed anything but moderate right to me, and the above identify you as a moderate as far as I'm concerned.

My problem with Trump isn't that he's far right, he's just authoritarian. He isn't conservative or christian or anything like his republican predecessors. He doesn't believe in anything except what advances Trump's interests. If I had to pin down his political position, he's a mad radical authoritarian narcissist.

Still, people whose views I care about disagree and have voted for him. So hopefully I'm wrong and they're right, eh.