O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[Lullapie]

I do agree that it is a "my heart to you" gesture from a person that appears to have a lack of social skills.

But plenty of business acumen. There's not many on NCM have the same ability.

[Lullapie]

Here is is in full from the Telegraph youtube. Admittedly quite a far left source for you and Med Pie but you may need to hold your nose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb-6Clhs

Definitely not a Nazi salute.

'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command'

That's how far left people's views have moved. I am centre-right with my political views, but others are that far left, I look like a fascist to them.

I'm into immigration, social welfare and a robust national health service. They are non-negotiable.

Just to make that clear .

[SwalePie]

The lefty media fortunately left out his final words - "from my heart to you" - end of fake news.

I think you'll find this particular lefty medium used it as the start of their third paragraph.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cpdxzjw9p47o

[BigFatPie]

If he had not constantly supported white supremacist causes that might be a reasonable conclusion.

A man whos repeatedly expressed support for the far right in Germany of all places performing a Nazi salute at the swearing in off his boss/puppet and theres still a debate about whether he meant it, didnt mean it, is autistic, was joking, was winding the lefties up, etc etc.

Presumably to clear up any misunderstanding President Rapist will disassociate himself from Musk and apologise for offence caused? No, probably not.

[Lullapie]

I think you'll find this particular lefty medium used it as the start of their third paragraph.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cpdxzjw9p47o

The original article I wrote about from the BBC didn't have his final message mentioned - hence my comment. It appears to have been edited since and added in along with a comment from a Musk supporter who says it was more like a Roman salute.

Perhaps that's how the BBC works, they post something initially that is defamatory or inflammatory and then amend the article later to negate any claim of biasedness.

I'll post anything like that as a photo next time and not rely on links.

[Lullapie]

Damn...they're all at it.

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[OchPie]

If you do a Nazi salute - and this was a Nazi salute - without meaning to, and your response is not "oh **** I did a Nazi salute and that was totally not my intention", it really suggests you were either a) doing a Nazi salute or b) doing something so close to a Nazi salute (but ****ing it up and actually doing a Nazi salute) because you knew it would get libs and lefties and nearly the entire nation of Germany horrified you did a Nazi salute to get attention.

And having an arm temporarily in a certain position as part of a completely different arm movement is not doing a Nazi salute. Doing a Nazi salute is, however, doing a Nazi salute.

[i961pie]

If you do a Nazi salute - and this was a Nazi salute - without meaning to, and your response is not "oh **** I did a Nazi salute and that was totally not my intention", it really suggests you were either a) doing a Nazi salute or b) doing something so close to a Nazi salute (but ****ing it up and actually doing a Nazi salute) because you knew it would get libs and lefties and nearly the entire nation of Germany horrified you did a Nazi salute to get attention.

And having an arm temporarily in a certain position as part of a completely different arm movement is not doing a Nazi salute. Doing a Nazi salute is, however, doing a Nazi salute.

Blimey that's 10 Nazi salutes in one post😜

[Jampie]

That's how far left people's views have moved. I am centre-right with my political views, but others are that far left, I look like a fascist to them.

I'm into immigration, social welfare and a robust national health service. They are non-negotiable.

Just to make that clear .

For the record you've never seemed anything but moderate right to me, and the above identify you as a moderate as far as I'm concerned.

My problem with Trump isn't that he's far right, he's just authoritarian. He isn't conservative or christian or anything like his republican predecessors. He doesn't believe in anything except what advances Trump's interests. If I had to pin down his political position, he's a mad radical authoritarian narcissist.

Still, people whose views I care about disagree and have voted for him. So hopefully I'm wrong and they're right, eh.

[OchPie]

Blimey that's 10 Nazi salutes in one post😜