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    Whilst on the subject of credibility, compassion, sensitivity and humility, it may be that now is the time for apologies to be offered by some in the tragic case of Axel Rudakubana.

    As some of us pointed out at the time the subsequent rioting in Southport was a complete disgrace and wholly unjustified. There was no conspiracy, there was no link to political terrorism, the perpetrator was not an illegal immigrant and the rioting was politically motivated.

    It was as tragic a case as I can remember, but it was the result of the evil actions of a chronically damaged and seriously maladjusted young male loner who is now, correctly imo, going to spend the vast majority of his life - should he last very long - behind bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Whilst on the subject of credibility, compassion, sensitivity and humility, it may be that now is the time for apologies to be offered by some in the tragic case of Axel Rudakubana.

    As some of us pointed out at the time the subsequent rioting in Southport was a complete disgrace and wholly unjustified. There was no conspiracy, there was no link to political terrorism, the perpetrator was not an illegal immigrant and the rioting was politically motivated.

    It was as tragic a case as I can remember, but it was the result of the evil actions of a chronically damaged and seriously maladjusted young male loner who is now, correctly imo, going to spend the vast majority of his life - should he last very long - behind bars.
    Unless kept out of GenPop, I don't see him lasting long. Either somebody who's already in there "forever" who wants the plaudits he'll get from other inmates or the lad's violent temperament will come to the fore and he'll have a go at someone and get put out of his mysery

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Unless kept out of GenPop, I don't see him lasting long. Either somebody who's already in there "forever" who wants the plaudits he'll get from other inmates or the lad's violent temperament will come to the fore and he'll have a go at someone and get put out of his mysery
    yes that went through my mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Unless kept out of GenPop, I don't see him lasting long. Either somebody who's already in there "forever" who wants the plaudits he'll get from other inmates or the lad's violent temperament will come to the fore and he'll have a go at someone and get put out of his mysery
    Unless he serves his sentence in isolation, he will be attacked at some point. He murdered children and gloated about it. There will be a price on his head in many forms, from cash to drugs.
    You cannot watch him round the clock, so expect a slashed throat or poisoned food find him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Whilst on the subject of credibility, compassion, sensitivity and humility, it may be that now is the time for apologies to be offered by some in the tragic case of Axel Rudakubana.

    As some of us pointed out at the time the subsequent rioting in Southport was a complete disgrace and wholly unjustified. There was no conspiracy, there was no link to political terrorism, the perpetrator was not an illegal immigrant and the rioting was politically motivated.

    It was as tragic a case as I can remember, but it was the result of the evil actions of a chronically damaged and seriously maladjusted young male loner who is now, correctly imo, going to spend the vast majority of his life - should he last very long - behind bars.
    The rioting was wholely on the part of the government and the police, hiding the truth from the public.
    They claimed it wasn't a terror attack? Al Queda terror manuals, making ricin, 2019 to May 2022:

    Police have several interactions with him, including responding to five calls from his home address relating to concerns about his behaviour. On each occasion, referrals are made to a multi-agency safeguarding hub.

    Three referrals are also made by education providers to the Government anti-extremism scheme Prevent between December 2019 and April 2021.

    He was aged between 13 and 14.

    Then you have his father, who was allowed here by Blair, still has question marks hanging over him regarding Rwanda genocide.

    Now factor in succesive governments reluctance to admit anything, Then Keir Starmer holding press conferences to condemn those suggesting any connection to Islam as ?Far Right?. Starmer knew of the ricin and Al-Qaeda manual found in Rudabukana?s home almost immediately after the search; and of the terror charges two weeks before the Crown Prosecution Service announced them'

    Yet compare to this one- A knifeman with Adolf Hitler?s signature tattooed on his arm has been jailed for life for the attempted murder of an asylum seeker at a hotel, claiming the attack was a ?form of protest? against small boat crossings.

    Callum Ulysses Parslow, who wrote his own ?terrorist manifesto?, stabbed Nahom Hagos in the chest and hand at the Pear Tree Inn at Hindlip, Worcestershire, in April last year after buying a ?specialist? knife online for 1,000 US dollars (?770). Declared a terrorist attack from the off!

    There is a narrative here, that kicks in, when certain ethnicities and religious allegiace's raise their heads.

    Had the government stepped up to the plate with simple facts, from day one, those riots could have been avoided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    The rioting was wholely on the part of the government and the police, hiding the truth from the public.
    They claimed it wasn't a terror attack? Al Queda terror manuals, making ricin, 2019 to May 2022:

    Police have several interactions with him, including responding to five calls from his home address relating to concerns about his behaviour. On each occasion, referrals are made to a multi-agency safeguarding hub.

    Three referrals are also made by education providers to the Government anti-extremism scheme Prevent between December 2019 and April 2021.

    He was aged between 13 and 14.

    Then you have his father, who was allowed here by Blair, still has question marks hanging over him regarding Rwanda genocide.

    Now factor in succesive governments reluctance to admit anything, Then Keir Starmer holding press conferences to condemn those suggesting any connection to Islam as ?Far Right?. Starmer knew of the ricin and Al-Qaeda manual found in Rudabukana?s home almost immediately after the search; and of the terror charges two weeks before the Crown Prosecution Service announced them'

    Yet compare to this one- A knifeman with Adolf Hitler?s signature tattooed on his arm has been jailed for life for the attempted murder of an asylum seeker at a hotel, claiming the attack was a ?form of protest? against small boat crossings.

    Callum Ulysses Parslow, who wrote his own ?terrorist manifesto?, stabbed Nahom Hagos in the chest and hand at the Pear Tree Inn at Hindlip, Worcestershire, in April last year after buying a ?specialist? knife online for 1,000 US dollars (?770). Declared a terrorist attack from the off!

    There is a narrative here, that kicks in, when certain ethnicities and religious allegiace's raise their heads.

    Had the government stepped up to the plate with simple facts, from day one, those riots could have been avoided.
    They couldn't. It would have been sub judice and ultimately, contempt of court. He wasn’t motivated by Islam anymore than he was motivated by violence in general. He is a twisted kid who has an unhealthy obsession with violence - school massacres, acts of genocide etc. You may as well blame certain computer games as a religion.

    Much has been made of the fact that he was expelled and went back to the school to attack someone with a hockey stick. Unfortunately such actions are not that uncommon, especially in schools dealing with poorer kids with more complex needs.
    Much has also been made of the fact that he was able to buy a knife from Amazon, but honestly…so what? He could just as easily have taken such a weapon from his own kitchen. Homes, sheds and garages are full of potentially lethal weapons if they fall into the wrong hands and minds.

    Of course the overriding question is, why? But we’ll probably never know. It’s like the killing of Jamie Bulger or the behaviour of Brady and Hindley…inexplicable rage and tragic madness which in no way ever justified the appalling violence, misinformation and rioting which followed.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 24-01-2025 at 04:31 PM.

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