O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[Elite_Pie]

I am saying that preliminary reports are that the tower wasn't being correctly manned (or wo-manned).

You just don't get it do you, you're still a million miles away. It's not about the rights, wrongs or possible causes of this, it's about a President trying to make political capital of a tragic incident. Your tongue is so far up Trump's arse I doubt you'll ever get it.

[magpie_mania]

You just don't get it do you, you're still a million miles away. It's not about the rights, wrongs or possible causes of this, it's about a President trying to make political capital of a tragic incident. Your tongue is so far up Trump's arse I doubt you'll ever get it.

Anyone defending Trump?s comments on this should hang their head in shame.

[Lullapie]

Anyone defending Trump?s comments on this should hang their head in shame.

Late night for the NCM Collective of Comrades isn't it?

[Lullapie]

You just don't get it do you, you're still a million miles away. It's not about the rights, wrongs or possible causes of this, it's about a President trying to make political capital of a tragic incident. Your tongue is so far up Trump's arse I doubt you'll ever get it.

You are a very angry person who turns to abuse when you don't get your own way. Bit of a pattern there.

What I get is that, Trump has said for a while that there are issues with the recruiting process at the FAA. When there are problems with recruiting, i.e. you recruit the wrong people, it can cause issues, sometimes catastrophic issues.

It's easy for someone who never flies anywhere to say lets all sit around, sing kumbaya and see if we can come to an amicable agreement and then do a press conference where someone stands at the pulpit, with twenty diverse employees/colleagues stood behind them, nodding while the speech is made to say errors were made, but we won't make them in the future.

For me, if a problem has been previously raised and not fixed, I want someone to stand up immediately and say, this ongoing, previously highlighted issue could have been what was a contributing factor to the accident and we have to investigate it now.

This is not an issue that he has just talked about today. In fact he is currently signing an act that was drawn up on the 22nd January about this very thing.

Just like he talked about the lack of action from FEMA in North Carolina and Georgia and then in Florida right after the two hurricanes - lets wait for an inquiry.

Just like he talked about no water in fire hydrants and lack of qualified fire fighters in Los Angeles - lets wait for an enquiry.

He got immediate emergency action in all of those catastrophes, rather than waiting for the Democrat government to act, which would have taken months.

I think you're used to the lightening pace of Keir Starmer. The only thing he acts quickly on is locking up protestors who don't believe the same way as him.

[magpie_mania]

You are a very angry person who turns to abuse when you don't get your own way. Bit of a pattern there.

What I get is that, Trump has said for a while that there are issues with the recruiting process at the FAA. When there are problems with recruiting, i.e. you recruit the wrong people, it can cause issues, sometimes catastrophic issues.

It's easy for someone who never flies anywhere to say lets all sit around, sing kumbaya and see if we can come to an amicable agreement and then do a press conference where someone stands at the pulpit, with twenty diverse employees/colleagues stood behind them, nodding while the speech is made to say errors were made, but we won't make them in the future.

For me, if a problem has been previously raised and not fixed, I want someone to stand up immediately and say, this ongoing, previously highlighted issue could have been what was a contributing factor to the accident and we have to investigate it now.

This is not an issue that he has just talked about today. In fact he is currently signing an act that was drawn up on the 22nd January about this very thing.

Just like he talked about the lack of action from FEMA in North Carolina and Georgia and then in Florida right after the two hurricanes - lets wait for an inquiry.

Just like he talked about no water in fire hydrants and lack of qualified fire fighters in Los Angeles - lets wait for an enquiry.

He got immediate emergency action in all of those catastrophes, rather than waiting for the Democrat government to act, which would have taken months.

I think you're used to the lightening pace of Keir Starmer. The only thing he acts quickly on is locking up protestors who don't believe the same way as him.

So do you agree with his comments? A straight yes or no is all that is needed.

[Lullapie]

So do you agree with his comments? A straight yes or no is all that is needed.

I agree 100% with his comments. Is this what you are referring too:

With regards to the FAA.

"Brilliant people have to be in those positions,"

"A group within the FAA determined that the workforce was too white, then they had concerted efforts to get the administration to change that and to change it immediately," Trump said. "This was in the Obama administration.?

Taken from The Hill - which can't be construed as a media outlet that makes Trump look good.

He tried to fix it in his last term, but was blocked by what the Republicans call the 'Dark State'.

[Elite_Pie]

You are a very angry person who turns to abuse when you don't get your own way. Bit of a pattern there.

Yaaaaaawn. You are still avoiding the point of my posts, I wonder why? Do you think it's right that in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy the most powerful person in the world starts conspiracy theories rather than express genuine condolences? You've not said a single word against it, and I doubt you will. That says a lot about you.

[Lullapie]

Yaaaaaawn. You are still avoiding the point of my posts, I wonder why? Do you think it's right that in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy the most powerful person in the world starts conspiracy theories rather than express genuine condolences? You've not said a single word against it, and I doubt you will. That says a lot about you.

What are you talking about? The one thing I don't do is avoid made-up 'points' you make. I ask you for proof and then get abusive.

It isn't a conspiracy theory. Why don't you call me an anti-vaxxer while you're at it? Another one of your childish name-calling tactics.

Read the previous posts. It was an issue that was identified in Trump's first term. There were problems at the FAA that was leading to safety issues in the US aviation industry. Due to the hiring practices of the FAA peoples' lives were in danger. Trump grounded the Boeing Max fleet after FAA wanted to discuss the failings of the fleet more.

Trump then wanted to replace the senior management of the FAA, but was undermined by US career-civil servants. He didn't get chance to clear out the board.

Trump said this time he was going to sort out the FAA and it's hiring processes. The bill was drawn up on 22nd January - over a week before the accident.

He alluded, after the accident, that it could have been caused by what he was trying to sort out. I really can't understand what you are saying is a conspiracy theory.

Don't start me on about the Laken Riley Act. Another issue that the Democrats brushed under the carpet until Trump came in.

[Elite_Pie]

What are you talking about? The one thing I don't do is avoid made-up 'points' you make. I ask you for proof and then get abusive.

It isn't a conspiracy theory. Why don't you call me an anti-vaxxer while you're at it? Another one of your childish name-calling tactics.

Read the previous posts. It was an issue that was identified in Trump's first term. There were problems at the FAA that was leading to safety issues in the US aviation industry. Due to the hiring practices of the FAA peoples' lives were in danger. Trump grounded the Boeing Max fleet after FAA wanted to discuss the failings of the fleet more.

Trump then wanted to replace the senior management of the FAA, but was undermined by US career-civil servants. He didn't get chance to clear out the board.

Trump said this time he was going to sort out the FAA and it's hiring processes. The bill was drawn up on 22nd January - over a week before the accident.

He alluded, after the accident, that it could have been caused by what he was trying to sort out. I really can't understand what you are saying is a conspiracy theory.

Don't start me on about the Laken Riley Act. Another issue that the Democrats brushed under the carpet until Trump came in.

F*cking hell, this is like talking to a plank of wood. Evade, avoid, swerve, do anything but face the point.

You obviously think it's fine for Trump to use a tragedy to try and score cheap political points. I don't think many would agree with you.

[SwalePie]

What are you talking about? The one thing I don't do is avoid made-up 'points' you make. I ask you for proof and then get abusive.

It isn't a conspiracy theory. Why don't you call me an anti-vaxxer while you're at it? Another one of your childish name-calling tactics.

Read the previous posts. It was an issue that was identified in Trump's first term. There were problems at the FAA that was leading to safety issues in the US aviation industry. Due to the hiring practices of the FAA peoples' lives were in danger. Trump grounded the Boeing Max fleet after FAA wanted to discuss the failings of the fleet more.

Trump then wanted to replace the senior management of the FAA, but was undermined by US career-civil servants. He didn't get chance to clear out the board.

Trump said this time he was going to sort out the FAA and it's hiring processes. The bill was drawn up on 22nd January - over a week before the accident.

He alluded, after the accident, that it could have been caused by what he was trying to sort out. I really can't understand what you are saying is a conspiracy theory.

Don't start me on about the Laken Riley Act. Another issue that the Democrats brushed under the carpet until Trump came in.

I hate to butt in here but you are absolutely, totally, 100%, COMPLETELY missing the point that people are making. Surely you can see what people are disgusted about? It isn't Trump's points or arguments.