Sack Jimmy Turnip

[Bojangles9]

If Dave Cormack has the backs of that shower of spineless wasters over his manager then hes a fuucking idiot.

They?ve seen off 3 managers (4 if you include Warnock walking) so why would anyone back them.

We need to stagger though to the end of the season avoiding the bottom 2 places, and then absolutely clean house.

Personally I would bin every single player signed before Thelin took over - & probably a couple since though the likes of Nisbet will be away anyway.

None of them have earned the right to stay at AFC. Not good enough, not mentally strong enough, absolutely no professional pride. They can all do one.

Seen this referenced a lot. As though it’s the same team over and over.

Over a third of the squad came in this season.
Only Mackenzie and Besuijen have played for all 4.
Add Clarkson, Duk, Morris, Polvara to those who played under Goodwin. (Shinnie only came in at the tail end)

Would be better if it was the one team, but it’s several!

Not to excuse these individuals but again I’m harking back to the lack of Technical Director.

Is our model wrong? Is our mix of project/model players to experience skewed?
Like Warnock says are we concentrating too much on data?
Not a fan of him but can’t say he’s not experienced.

With how Jimmy spoke in the build up to the window I fair thought we’d we seeing some experienced Scottish players come in.
That’s not transpired (yet…hope springs eternal…I’m a dandy after all…).

I’m still fully behind JT but it’s moot if he’s not getting fully supported, and I don’t just mean Dave flinging money at ‘the model’.

[Mason89]

All of this is on the manager for me. If theres players not showing the right attitude, why is he sticking with them every week?

I like him way more than I like the players but hes not helping himself at all. He?s committing managerial suicide every single week with the selections, tactics and philosophy (insert spew smiley here)

When youre this bad, you have to sort out the basics before you can worry about trying to play nice football through the opposition. Working harder off the ball, picking up your men properly, clearing up the park or up wide, defending set pieces & making yourself hard to beat is the first step.

Absolute pish like Dundee Utd, Hibs. St.Mirren, Motherwell & the Huns didnt beat us by being good. We f*cked ourselves over for them

[neilthedon]

All of this is on the manager for me. If theres players not showing the right attitude, why is he sticking with them every week?

I like him way more than I like the players but hes not helping himself at all. He?s committing managerial suicide every single week with the selections, tactics and philosophy (insert spew smiley here)

When youre this bad, you have to sort out the basics before you can worry about trying to play nice football through the opposition. Working harder off the ball, picking up your men properly, clearing up the park or up wide, defending set pieces & making yourself hard to beat is the first step.

Absolute pish like Dundee Utd, Hibs. St.Mirren, Motherwell & the Huns didnt beat us by being good. We f*cked ourselves over for them

It`s an interesting one. And without knowing all the shenigans going on behind the scene, we aare all just guessing .

Here`s my guess .
JT has come from a completely different Country, and a majorly different mindset.

Being a bit simple about it, i am assuming that in Sweden people are slightly less hysterical than the Scots.
Or at least in football circles.
He has been selected, chased and eventually recruited by a dtermined suitor who has promised him the time to do things the way he has succesfully done his job in the past. He believes he truly has a 3 year paln and will be given that time to follow it through ?

I also guess that he was absolutely flummoxed the way the first 10-15b games went. As he knew the players he had were not doing it his way very well. But amazingly they just kept winnig....jusy. And often , only just . Remeber he kept saying " They keep finding a way to win " Despite letting every opposition team have loads of posseision and space to make chances . Even Airdrie were made to look good , really good, in their game ?

He certainly wasn`t going to " do a Fergie" and tear a strip off them after they won agame after game, but only just. Probably knowing that many of the players confidence was fragile. Peter Leven could have warned him about that. ?

So , when the luck turned, and those 93rd minute goals stopped winning games, and things slipped, I`m sure he was telling,telling,telling his players all week in training what they still needed to do. Run , chase , harry.......but off thjey trot onto the park, and bleurgh...nada !!

So we`ve seen the mask slip now. He is finally admitting in public, in his mild a cold Swedish way , that they need to " run about a bit" as Barry Robson would have said.

Oh what the hell. I`m rambling. We need a couple of younger players to run about a bit in midfield. And we need more crosses into the box. And a Striker that runs about a lot and can shoot on sight, and on target.

There. I said it !!

COYR.

[TheDeeDon]

It`s an interesting one. And without knowing all the shenigans going on behind the scene, we aare all just guessing .

Here`s my guess .
JT has come from a completely different Country, and a majorly different mindset.

Being a bit simple about it, i am assuming that in Sweden people are slightly less hysterical than the Scots.
Or at least in football circles.
He has been selected, chased and eventually recruited by a dtermined suitor who has promised him the time to do things the way he has succesfully done his job in the past. He believes he truly has a 3 year paln and will be given that time to follow it through ?

I also guess that he was absolutely flummoxed the way the first 10-15b games went. As he knew the players he had were not doing it his way very well. But amazingly they just kept winnig....jusy. And often , only just . Remeber he kept saying " They keep finding a way to win " Despite letting every opposition team have loads of posseision and space to make chances . Even Airdrie were made to look good , really good, in their game ?

He certainly wasn`t going to " do a Fergie" and tear a strip off them after they won agame after game, but only just. Probably knowing that many of the players confidence was fragile. Peter Leven could have warned him about that. ?

So , when the luck turned, and those 93rd minute goals stopped winning games, and things slipped, I`m sure he was telling,telling,telling his players all week in training what they still needed to do. Run , chase , harry.......but off thjey trot onto the park, and bleurgh...nada !!

So we`ve seen the mask slip now. He is finally admitting in public, in his mild a cold Swedish way , that they need to " run about a bit" as Barry Robson would have said.

Oh what the hell. I`m rambling. We need a couple of younger players to run about a bit in midfield. And we need more crosses into the box. And a Striker that runs about a lot and can shoot on sight, and on target.

There. I said it !!

COYR.

That was a good read min.

That winning run was great, but we were far from great under it. That said, if we didn't have it Thelin would be a goner by now.

I like the fact he comes across so well and sticking to something he is adamant will work for us in the long run.

Hopefully it pays off for Thelin and us watching in the stands.

[RED_JOHN]

Thelin made a right mess of this game with his player selection and tactics. I really can’t remember the St.Johnstone goalkeeper having a save today which is absolutely pathetic if we aren’t hitting the back of the net.
MacKenzie is gone….let’s not waste any more time with him on the pitch and use others as he offers absolutely nothing. Same with Okkels, he has been a terrible signing and shouldn’t be near the squad let alone getting game time. He isn’t going to come good as he is what he is.
How many long balls did we insist on playing today….don’t tell me we have Swedens version of Barry Robson.
We also don’t win big games under Thelin. We are struggling along and will continue the rest of the season.
St.Johnstone had a great chance to win today but a good save from Mitov kept us from going behind and losing.
If we can’t trouble the opposition goalkeeper whose team are the bottom of the league then we are in trouble.
He will (Thelin) see out the season but only because the malaise has reached an unprecedented level which means fans accept any cr@p from the team nowadays.
Aberdeen don’t have enough football experience above the managers level and this is why they are being conned consistently. Anyone who can talk a good game gets the gig…it’s not that they were previously winning the top leagues they plied their trade in.
Stop employing nobodies and get real football personnel into this club.
Football is different from any other business….you can’t gamble with so many key positions in a club and hope it comes good.

On another note…anyone know how our younger teams are performing in their leagues?

[rico94]

Time to stop drinking and go to bed.