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Thread: Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

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    It seems to me more of a give back to the American people by looking at all the waste and excesses in the US Government, which Trump was upfront about in his electioneering.

    With public debt at record levels in the US, Trump is being honest - the country simply cannot afford to throw money at woke, left wing ?nonsense?. It cannot afford to support unlimited immigration.

    The Democrats, with their liberal, left wing agenda, have destroyed the once beautiful city of San Francisco (as one example of their policies in action).

    Trump wants to restore all that was great about America.

    Would that the UK Government had similar designs for so - Great Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissclaret View Post
    It seems to me more of a give back to the American people by looking at all the waste and excesses in the US Government, which Trump was upfront about in his electioneering.

    With public debt at record levels in the US, Trump is being honest - the country simply cannot afford to throw money at woke, left wing ?nonsense?. It cannot afford to support unlimited immigration.

    The Democrats, with their liberal, left wing agenda, have destroyed the once beautiful city of San Francisco (as one example of their policies in action).

    Trump wants to restore all that was great about America.

    Would that the UK Government had similar designs for so - Great Britain.
    Forget any ideas of Starmer copy-catting anything the US may or may not do S_c, he's a mindless moron who has just one thing in common with Trump, he leaves the rich alone and targets the poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the bedlington terrier View Post
    alternatively we could say donald trump and elon musk are on an unconstitutional rampage, aiming for virtually every corner of the federal government.

    the us federal government is currently over $36 trillion dollars in debt, to expect the trump administration to ignore this completely and do nothing about it is simply laughable.

    these two right-wing billionaires are targeting nurses, scientists, teachers, daycare providers, judges, veterans, air traffic controllers, and nuclear safety inspectors.

    nonsense, they are carrying out an audit of every government department to eliminate fraud, corruption and inefficiency. Of which there is clearly a lot. A lot, lot more than anyone imagined.

    entire agencies have been chucked under the bus overnight, including usaid, the consumer financial protection bureau, the epa, and the national labour relations board. Other targets on their hit list include the department of education, fema, the national institutes of health, food stamps, social security, medicare, and medicaid.

    ah yes, usaid, "usaid, long criticized for a lack of transparency in its aid disbursement, quickly emerged as a prime target. According to sources within doge, early investigations found that millions?if not billions?of taxpayer dollars had been misallocated, lost in convoluted contracts, or funneled into dubious programs with little oversight. One of the most shocking findings involved aid money allegedly being directed to shell organizations overseas, with minimal accountability. This revelation, if verified, could fundamentally alter u.s. Foreign aid policy and fuel demands for a complete overhaul of usaid?s operations."

    cfpb, elizabeth warren's love-child, a lot of people are wondering how she has accrued net worth of over ?80 million on a government salary of around $200,000 a year. I wouldn't be happy about cfpb being audited if i was her.


    i'm unaware the people voted for this.

    there are a lot of things you are unaware of mon ami, this is just one of many. "the idea for doge was first floated during the 2024 presidential election when musk suggested an audit of the federal government. The proposal was embraced by trump, then the republican nominee." so the people did actually vote for it.


    the people do not want this dystopian hellscape that hides behind claims of "efficiency," but in reality, it is a giveaway to corporate interests and the libertarian dreams of far-right oligarchs like musk.

    oh yes they do, trump's popularity ratings are high, and one of the reasons is that he's doing what he promised to do. And this despite journalists and the media going into melt down over him, musk and doge.


    maga

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    Argue amongst yourselves, in 5 hours time I'm off to the Canary Islands for three weeks. Auf Wiedersehen & adios amigos.

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    Just read this, it is now 5 hours time so adios amigo, enjoy the dog islands.

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    B T . Switch to Spanish, it will help you more there, German could help you if your lucky, but then use English??? ?Por qu? no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Forget any ideas of Starmer copy-catting anything the US may or may not do S_c, he's a mindless moron who has just one thing in common with Trump, he leaves the rich alone and targets the poor.
    If we look at the known facts
    1) Both Trump and Zelensky are elected presidents of their respective countries. However, Trump is a convicted felon.
    2) It is without doubt that the Russian invaded Ukraine, how Trump can state that Ukraine started the war in beyond belief.
    3) Russia says it will not have western European troops deployed in Ukraine under any circumstances, but North Korean troops are allowed.
    4) Ukraine has been successful in applying to join NATO, subject to the war ending, but Trump has pulled the plug on that without any consultation with the rest of NATO or indeed Ukraine.
    5) Trump as previous for inciting violence to obtain his own way. As in the Capitol riots four years ago.
    6) Holding free elections in Ukraine is impossible while some of the country is under occupation by foreign forces.

    While I could applaud any attempt to bring peace to Ukraine, there must be a willingness to be even handed not tale one sides version of events as gospel. If Trump wants to withdraw American support for Ukraine for a financial reason then he should make that perfectly clear.

    Russia was alleged to have contributed to the USA republican election campaign in the 2016 presidential elections. It looks like it could be a possible pay back for their 2016 support.

    We all know the Trump statement “Let make America great again” what it fails to say is only if it is good for the Trump organisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Claret View Post
    If we look at the known facts
    1) Both Trump and Zelensky are elected presidents of their respective countries. However, Trump is a convicted felon.
    2) It is without doubt that the Russian invaded Ukraine, how Trump can state that Ukraine started the war in beyond belief.
    3) Russia says it will not have western European troops deployed in Ukraine under any circumstances, but North Korean troops are allowed.
    4) Ukraine has been successful in applying to join NATO, subject to the war ending, but Trump has pulled the plug on that without any consultation with the rest of NATO or indeed Ukraine.
    5) Trump as previous for inciting violence to obtain his own way. As in the Capitol riots four years ago.
    6) Holding free elections in Ukraine is impossible while some of the country is under occupation by foreign forces.

    While I could applaud any attempt to bring peace to Ukraine, there must be a willingness to be even handed not tale one sides version of events as gospel. If Trump wants to withdraw American support for Ukraine for a financial reason then he should make that perfectly clear.

    Russia was alleged to have contributed to the USA republican election campaign in the 2016 presidential elections. It looks like it could be a possible pay back for their 2016 support.

    We all know the Trump statement “Let make America great again” what it fails to say is only if it is good for the Trump organisation.
    All valid points, Vintage.

    The only question that I have posed to people questioning what Trump is doing, assuming that they want to see an end to the war, the killing, the destruction, the economic costs, is “what is your solution?

    I have yet to receive an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Claret View Post
    If we look at the known facts
    1) Both Trump and Zelensky are elected presidents of their respective countries. However, Trump is a convicted felon.
    2) It is without doubt that the Russian invaded Ukraine, how Trump can state that Ukraine started the war in beyond belief.
    3) Russia says it will not have western European troops deployed in Ukraine under any circumstances, but North Korean troops are allowed.
    4) Ukraine has been successful in applying to join NATO, subject to the war ending, but Trump has pulled the plug on that without any consultation with the rest of NATO or indeed Ukraine.
    5) Trump as previous for inciting violence to obtain his own way. As in the Capitol riots four years ago.
    6) Holding free elections in Ukraine is impossible while some of the country is under occupation by foreign forces.

    While I could applaud any attempt to bring peace to Ukraine, there must be a willingness to be even handed not tale one sides version of events as gospel. If Trump wants to withdraw American support for Ukraine for a financial reason then he should make that perfectly clear.

    Russia was alleged to have contributed to the USA republican election campaign in the 2016 presidential elections. It looks like it could be a possible pay back for their 2016 support.

    We all know the Trump statement ?Let make America great again? what it fails to say is only if it is good for the Trump organisation.
    See below.
    Last edited by sinkov; 20-02-2025 at 05:25 PM.

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    Just on the firth of your 'known facts' VC, [5) "Trump as previous for inciting violence to obtain his own way. As in the Capitol riots four years ago." I actually read the transcript of Trump's speech. There was no call for an insurrection, no incitement to violence, if you doubt my word I'm sure the speech is readily available if you google it, you can check it out for yourself. Despite this the Senate voted to find Trump guilty of calling for insurrection, an early example of the two Tier Justice system that has now ensconced itself over here as well. Another example of America's dysfunctional Justice System was the case of Dr. Simone Gold, who explains to Jordan Peterson here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcdS...ordanBPeterson just what happened to her in the aftermath of Jan. 6th at the Capitol.

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