Supposed real reason Ashworth was ditched by Manure

[Ragatino]

well i for one am loving it. Was never confident in Ashworth, he has all the demeanour of a Southgate man.

It will never get any better for Manure until Scarecrow Jim has gone,

he is a man that runs his companies on a shoe string and treats staff like crap,

while also being a tax exile from the country of whom he wants to buy him a stadium. That tells you all you need to know about him.

He will end up being hated by the Manc fans more than we hated the FCB.

I will smile and quietly laugh for as long as it goes on, those entitled ****s have had their day, our day is on the way

Regardless of who is running the circus at OT the facts are simple.

They're finished as a force in football, however as a 'brand' they are in the same bracket as the Yankees, Lakers, Ferrari F1 etc.

Their commercial success, credit to the Glazers, taking an ?800m business and turning it into a ?5.5Billion one is remarkable.

The bit that everyone skims over is 'The Glazers have spent ?1.5BILLION on PLAYERS.' What is everyone talking about bad owners?

The debt repayments on their loan might be around ?600-700m however, this is how business works. The Irony is the rules they championed along with their Shill Masters and his boys are now coming back to bite them. Hubris indeed.

There isn't a way to fix that club. No one can afford to buy as the Glazers and Ratboy won't sell for less than market value. ?5.5B is ?1.5B more than it's worth as a brand and probably ?2.75B more than it's true value.

On the subject of Ashworth. I don't buy any of what is written above. None of it makes sense.

The former Newcastle United sporting director was seen as a bad appointment by co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe.

The Rat was persistent and vocal in his admiration of Ashworth Prior to him joining.

Sir Jim Ratcliffe, stepping in as new co-owner, aimed to inject 'British expertise' into the fold, yet felt Ashworth's approach was too narrowly focused on UK football.

So, they wanted British Expertise. Then Ashworth goes out and signs Joshua Zirkzee, Leny Yoro, Matthijs de Ligt, Noussair Mazraoui and Manuel Ugarte 5 foreign players who all played outside of the Prem?

This whole 'Too British centric' is an absolute lie, this story is all spin to make things look less embarrassing. You'll see all the MSM and Man U social media channels regurging this pish for weeks now you watch.

I made myself very clear that I didn't rate Ashworth, from his time at England, he copied and pasted the French and Spanish model on to St. George's park it was needed and more surprisingly (or not considering the old boys network of Luddites who run the FA/National game) is why it hadn't been down decades early, after one of dozens of humiliations the national team dealt the British public on the world stage.

The Man was a hype job, cherry on the cake it was his decisions to give Fat Sam Allardyce the England job. After that one, he should never have worked in football again.

One thing I will say about Ashworth at Man U though. He was right about everything. Berrada is a joke, my City friends and people here close to the owners saw him a no body in the City Group organisation, more a nuisance with ambitions above his ability. Brailsford proved at Nice that his less clue about football than the tea lady they fired after 40 odd yrs of service to the club.

Ashworth's focus on a British core at the centre of the club might have actually given the Red Filth a fighting chance. Instead they brought in a bunch of foreigners who didn't grow up with that big bullying red face alci jock and his band of cheating scumbags being rammed down their throat by every sports channel and news paper article.

It's a money making machine like the New York Yankees. Their Merch sells globally and it's now a brand that doesn't need to be successful on the pitch to print money.

The local fans are being priced out of matches, they want to tourist fans who'll pay 5 - 10 x what the normal fan can afford.

Anyway long may it continue. Like Ronald... Do-do, do, do, doooo I'm loving it haha

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The bit that everyone skims over is 'The Glazers have spent ?1.5BILLION on PLAYERS.' What is everyone talking about bad owners?

When I pointed this out to a ManU supporter I met last year he became very angry but had no reply. As with many things today ?the Glaziers are terrible owners? has become a ?fact? but noone really knows why. I prefer the more accurate narrative that ?ManU arent good anymore and their supporters need a scapegoat?.

On another point it?s disgraceful what Hobo is doing, internally, at the club including laying people off while he makes a 4 million pound mistake.

[Ragatino]

When I pointed this out to a ManU supporter I met last year he became very angry but had no reply. As with many things today ?the Glaziers are terrible owners? has become a ?fact? but noone really knows why. I prefer the more accurate narrative that ?ManU arent good anymore and their supporters need a scapegoat?.

On another point it?s disgraceful what Hobo is doing, internally, at the club including laying people off while he makes a 4 million pound mistake.

What can you say to facts?

Simply put. The Glazers have 5x'd the business value and strengthened the global brand of Man U. As a business they have done an exceptional job which has been rewarded in dividends.

When Fans get upset about them taking dividends and not paying off the debt, servicing the loan interest it's clear they no nothing about business.

Also, where is the outrage and JP McManus and Fergi who was instrumental in bringing the Glazers to Man U?

Auld red nose is still their hero despite having his jackie paw in the till the whole time.

Rat-clown, the latest saviour they were all crowing about only a few months back as slammed the till draw shut on the wasteful spending and that is offensive to them? 250 employees made redundant? How many people work there? I mean how many staff does a football club need on non-match days?

With regard to Man U TV, I build and delivered the HD project at OT and Carrington about 15 yrs ago. We had to go 'live' before Liverpool FC TV for the Man U global launch.

MUTV is or was a separate company with tiny budgets. If I remember rightly the whole team was about 15-20 people. I don't know what all the moaning is about? MU are a business not a local charity where they have to employ high school dropouts from Salford and Old Trafford just because they are fans of the club.

MU is literally a cesspit, a swamp and long may it continue