Hospitality Prices

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You’re surely not blaming the Americans for alienating our support?

We’ve got a support that have got used to watching football on a fire stick. Mostly moaning ****s, who wouldn’t go if it was a tenner.

I don’t know one person who has a fractured relationship with our owners.

They’ve supported every manager, that they’ve appointed.

When the Marrs took over I think they made the adult season ticket price ?90, hence the 23 million debt. That turned out well.

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You?re surely not blaming the Americans for alienating our support?

Quick question.

If not Nelms, who do you think is alienating the support?

Because something's driven them to Firesticks. Could Premiership season ticket prices in a Championship season have been one factor? Could a CEO that treats them with total disdain be a factor?

I've never felt so isolated from the club in my 55 years plus of following it - no news, no information, no feel good factor, lies (IMO) about a new stadium, no progress on the field with one step forward and two back for a decade or more, a CEO who's on record as stating it doesn't matter which division we're playing in. It just doesn't scream that the club is mine or ours any more - it's his and he doesn't give a sh1t about it or us (IMO).

[BP33]

Quick question.

If not Nelms, who do you think is alienating the support?

Because something's driven them to Firesticks. Could Premiership season ticket prices in a Championship season have been one factor? Could a CEO that treats them with total disdain be a factor?

I've never felt so isolated from the club in my 55 years plus of following it - no news, no information, no feel good factor, lies (IMO) about a new stadium, no progress on the field with one step forward and two back for a decade or more, a CEO who's on record as stating it doesn't matter which division we're playing in. It just doesn't scream that the club is mine or ours any more - it's his and he doesn't give a sh1t about it or us (IMO).

Apart from reading stuff on here, I don?t know anyone who?s been alienated by Nelms.

Agree that season tickets are too expensive, but that?s the same all over Scottish football.

He did say that the new stadium wasn?t dependent on what league were playing in, slightly different from your take.

I?ll believe the new stadium when I see it, but I can?t fathom why they would spend so much money, with no intention of going ahead. What IYO would they gain from that.

Our crowds have been **** for years, and long before the Americans came in.

We won the league cup in 73, and the week later we had approx 6,000 against Motherwell,

When Gellatly, Marr, Cook, Dixon, Dee4 life we?re running the club, it felt no different from now.

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Apart from reading stuff on here, I don?t know anyone who?s been alienated by Nelms.

Agree that season tickets are too expensive, but that?s the same all over Scottish football.

He did say that the new stadium wasn?t dependent on what league were playing in, slightly different from your take.

I?ll believe the new stadium when I see it, but I can?t fathom why they would spend so much money, with no intention of going ahead. What IYO would they gain from that.

Our crowds have been **** for years, and long before the Americans came in.

We won the league cup in 73, and the week later we had approx 6,000 against Motherwell,

When Gellatly, Marr, Cook, Dixon, Dee4 life we?re running the club, it felt no different from now.

Steve Martin told me in the Penman Lounge several months after he had been forced to resign as a director of Dundee Football Club Limited that he had a meeting with Tim Keyes and Tim Keyes couldn?t understand why John (Nelms) wanted Steve Martin off the DFC Ltd board of directors.
At present Nelms needs Bob Hynd?s firm of architects for the plans for Community Trust complex and football pitches at Riverside.
Once this complex is built and in use I would not be surprised to see Bob Hynd resigning as a DFC Ltd director as Nelms no longer needs him.
Bob Hynd presented Cammy Kerr with a gift at his testimonial match with no sign of Nelms being there despite him being the managing director of Dundee Football Club Limited.

[islaydarkblue]

Quick question.

If not Nelms, who do you think is alienating the support?

Because something's driven them to Firesticks. Could Premiership season ticket prices in a Championship season have been one factor? Could a CEO that treats them with total disdain be a factor?

I've never felt so isolated from the club in my 55 years plus of following it - no news, no information, no feel good factor, lies (IMO) about a new stadium, no progress on the field with one step forward and two back for a decade or more, a CEO who's on record as stating it doesn't matter which division we're playing in. It just doesn't scream that the club is mine or ours any more - it's his and he doesn't give a sh1t about it or us (IMO).

I totally agree with everything you have posted.
It will be interesting to see if any of Nelms?s spies are reading the posts on this topic.

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They’ve supported every manager, that they’ve appointed.

Are you sure about that?

Is the current manager really being backed when he's having second and third rate Mexican and Burnley loan players that he probably doesn't want thrown at him and eating into his playing budget?

Was Hartley backed when he went to his boss and told him he was struggling? Or was he just sacked on the spot resulting in a succession of complete failures filling the position after him? That's not backing the manager and the four duds that came after Hartley were Nelms' choices. Had he backed Hartley with the assistance he needed at the time maybe, just maybe, we'd be in a better place today?

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I don’t know one person who has a fractured relationship with our owners.

Do you know anyone, Dundee fan in particular, who has any kind of relationship with John Nelms and who doesn't have something that John Nelms wants or needs?

Pretty sure I don't.

[BP33]

Do you know anyone, Dundee fan in particular, who has any kind of relationship with John Nelms and who doesn't have something that John Nelms wants or needs?

Pretty sure I don't.

Why would I! I don’t know John Nelms. I’m going on boys who go to games that I know, and who support DFC.

You, Douglas, and the champion golfer, obviously don’t like him, that’s your prerogative.

Any way I’m out.

[islaydarkblue]

You?re surely not blaming the Americans for alienating our support?

We?ve got a support that have got used to watching football on a fire stick. Mostly moaning ****s, who wouldn?t go if it was a tenner.

I don?t know one person who has a fractured relationship with our owners.

They?ve supported every manager, that they?ve appointed.

When the Marrs took over I think they made the adult season ticket price ?90, hence the 23 million debt. That turned out well.

The ?90 season ticket had nothing to do with the ?23 million debt which was caused by Gavin Masterton the Bank of Scotland Chief Executive (2nd in command) letting the owners of Dundee Football Club go daft signing players on ridiculously high wages while the income from home games could not go anywhere near balancing the books.
I remember reading that Peter Marr?s plan was to sign good players and sell them on for large transfer fees, however Bosman scuppered that plan.
Gavin Masterton was a Dunfermline Athletic FC supporter and he gave them a loan which had to be repaid when Gavin Masterton was 100 years old.
This came to light when Dunfermline Athletic FC went into administration about ten years ago.