Quote Originally Posted by andy6025 View Post

As for your 3 options, here is my response to them:

1. Continue the war until Putin dies, etc. Among the Russian political class, Putin is a moderate who is viewed as soft on the west. Should Putin no longer be in office, for whatever reason, I do not think you will like the outcome.
Well Putin is not going to live for ever so the free West and worldwide democratic countries (USA now excluded) had better start some serious ramping up of their military and be more assertive because of what is incoming after Putin is worse then they had better be deterred.

However Trump is not going to last for ever either and it is just possible that they may also see that holding hands with Russia and isolating itself from its traditional friends is not at all clever.