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Thread: Sack him, save our season

  1. #131
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    If moneys the issue then why do a full pitch reconstruction, buy the nest, buy the sound system, create the padel courts, these aren?t the actions of owners penny pinching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobncfc View Post
    The situation at the moment is so interesting because it?s pitting what has been the owners main strategy, logical and longer term thinking, against the emotional hunch of the fanbase. And I really dont know what direction its going to go on.

    There isnt really a rational case for Maynard to be under any pressure at all. Weve made obvious progress from last season. Absolutely everyone wouldve been happy with the position we find ourselves in before a ball was kicked. Were the second highest goalscorers in the division. The xG data, if anything, suggest we should actually be doing slightly better. Hes done this with constant injuries to his key players, and another one being sold in January (after possibly spending the first half of the season in a sulk).

    And yet? pretty much no one is having this version of Notts. And I fully include myself in this. The atmosphere home and away is flat, and has been all season, even when weve been doing particularly well. Crowds are going in the wrong direction, not drastically, but enough to start noticing. Theres very little love towards the manager or the whole group really.

    I think theres loads of different reasons for this. His nightmare start is really difficult to shake off. Hes clearly not the most charismatic communicator in interviews. The football is methodical rather than high octane. It?s following a guy who was popular, successful, charismatic and whose football was entertaining to the point of ridicule at times.

    So what do they do? All of this stuff matters, and it?s very hard to change a football fans mind once its made up. Even if we went up, we?ll end up in this situation after every bad run. I actually think we were in a similar spot before with Ian Burchnall, but were saved by having to make a decision by Forest Green.
    The bloke just doesn?t have any credits in the managerial bank. By way of previous achievements, charisma, style of football, managerial bounce, long periods of good results, incredible game management, theres nothing the average fan can look on and think *results/performances are terrible at the moment but ?* .

    You can see what hes trying to achieve when you see the goal we scored at Donny. Team goal moving a side back and forth with no need for individual brilliance. But lets be honest, how often have we done that this season?

    Its pretty much pointless looking at the league table; everyone whos watched us regularly knows how we got there, who got us there, and where we are heading without them. For all the effect he has, the head coach might as well be sitting in the stands with the rest of us.

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    Maynard doesn't have a standout result, a game that we've clearly won against the odds. He's going to have to achieve this at least once for us to get promoted this season and if it's the play offs another three times. He'll never overachieve at Notts.

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    Magpie Circle scheduled for tonight at 7pm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN9Pr6qfekY

    No idea if Mace will be calling us all numpties for being doom merchants or pressing the panic button himself. I'll be tuning in to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    Magpie Circle scheduled for tonight at 7pm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN9Pr6qfekY

    No idea if Mace will be calling us all numpties for being doom merchants or pressing the panic button himself. I'll be tuning in to find out.
    He posted on here yesterday saying he wished the Bros were as decisive as Huddersfield, I get the impression he's never been overly keen on Maynard.

  6. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by matt_magpie View Post
    If moneys the issue then why do a full pitch reconstruction, buy the nest, buy the sound system, create the padel courts, these aren?t the actions of owners penny pinching.
    Dont let the truth get in the way off a good gossiper...!!! What did the brothers ever fo for us...? 🤣
    Last edited by PedroTheFisherman66; 10-03-2025 at 03:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt_magpie View Post
    If moneys the issue then why do a full pitch reconstruction, buy the nest, buy the sound system, create the padel courts, these aren?t the actions of owners penny pinching.
    I am not holding my breath on you getting an answer but I would like to see someone at least give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt_magpie View Post
    If moneys the issue then why do a full pitch reconstruction, buy the nest, buy the sound system, create the padel courts, these aren?t the actions of owners penny pinching.
    With hindsight the Jan transfer window was disappointing because we looks like we didnt sign anyone who could come straight in and affect a promotion chase, but people accusing the owners of penny pinching are not really worth listening to.

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    Of course, as we all remember, it only started happening for Pavis after he turned his attention to doing up the ground. it all took off for him after the ground was re-built. Who can forget playing against Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool season after season, with every seat in the ground taken. What great days they were.

    Dunnett, too, once he built the sports hall and finished installing the executive boxes, we became part of the furniture in the top flight. His best days were undoubtedly after Sirrel moved upstairs and Lloyd took over.

    Look at Fword. Finally realised that changing managers wasn't the answer, stuck with Chris Hughton who got them to where they are now on the riches generated by their padel court and fan space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    The bloke just doesn?t have any credits in the managerial bank. By way of previous achievements, charisma, style of football, managerial bounce, long periods of good results, incredible game management, theres nothing the average fan can look on and think *results/performances are terrible at the moment but ?* .

    You can see what hes trying to achieve when you see the goal we scored at Donny. Team goal moving a side back and forth with no need for individual brilliance. But lets be honest, how often have we done that this season?

    Its pretty much pointless looking at the league table; everyone whos watched us regularly knows how we got there, who got us there, and where we are heading without them. For all the effect he has, the head coach might as well be sitting in the stands with the rest of us.
    Has any appointment perceived by the fans as underwhelming or with baggage ever managed to win the fans over? None that I can remember - from Larry Lloyd through to Gary Brazil, to Keith Curle, to Stuart Maynard, and many more along the way.

    As a manager/head coach, you’re hoping to be given a little credit when you hit a bad spell, but none of these got this because they weren’t greeted with any enthusiasm from the beginning. Curle’s arguably the only one there who deserved a little more respect, but his association with Mansfield overrode that.

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