SBRed Match Thoughts Wigan Athletic v Barnsley

[Young_Nudger]

Yer right Shads - yer can’t judge owt unless you’ve seen it.
I was going on the general consensus from supporters on social media that seem to think it was poor with little or no change from Clarke.

Animal - I don’t think Hourihane has a cat in hells chance of getting the job - especially that we have seen no bounce in results.

As far as the young players - Neerav is desperate to get out of this division because it’s costing him - if young players are good enough, and let’s hope they are - then they will be in.
If not then other players will be brought in.
Neerav has said that a couple of players will be sold.
IMO our biggest asset is one of the young players - Fabio.

As for my early post being a wind up.
As previously stated on numerous occasions - I do not do wind ups.
I can see some of my views could be considered left field - but they are genuine opinions.
And for those accusing me of doing wind ups then I can only consider them to be hard of thinking.
Evidence if evidence was needed - my earlier post generated discussion.
In this particular case - the future of Hourihane.

[Shadrack the Red]

I'd actually give the job to Hourihane and my thoughts on why are this .

Reading between the lines it looks to me that next season we are going with some of the younger players such as Flavell , Bland Jalo , Yoganathan with Shepherd and Lopata coming back to the club from their spells out on loan .

This will probably require those that do purchase a ST next season to be patient and probably have very little in the way of expectation about getting promoted .

Let Hourihane in to his first HC role get on with the job whilst learning himself and try and piece this process together .

There's every chance even when the team is likely to be very inconsistent that an ex player of Hourihane's calibre with a team containing home grown young lads might just be given the time to steer the ship towards calmer waters .

Hourihane is unlikely to moan about the budget given this is his first role which has dropped in to his hands earlier than he probably expected .

I just think at this point in time It's probably the most common sense appointment given the financial restrictions that's going to make the next two or even three seasons difficult to be successful at this level .

Let him mould the team next season in his own image and who knows he might be just what we need as we enter a period of acceptance of league one football .

Good post Animal in which you make some very good points , history shows that we have always had more success from promoting within and as you point out Hourihane knows the score here , he knows that we have incompetent owners and will not be someone coming in expecting x and y and ending up with z , as I pointed out in an earlier post he is on trial for 10 games but it also gives him a 10 game advantage on pruning the squad when the summer cull decends upon the club , he can draw up a list of players who he would like to keep and by the same token he will have a good idea on who needs to be shown the door, any outsider coming in will have to start from scratch and before you know it next season will be upon us and the rinse and repeat will be under way again, so lets give Houihane a go and let him know asap so he can have maximum time to organise his squad and the preseason .

[pass_and_move]

That save from Flavell was unbelievable. Fantastic agility and reactions there. Couldn't believe he pulled it off.

The club, both on and off the pitch is obviously in a mess. We know why. These last few league games, especially with the injuries, is a great opportunity to play young uns and give them that taste of experience that they require.

I'm with Animal and think we should appoint Hourihane.

[Young_Nudger]

IMO this is what should happen - and I think will happen.
A new HC will be appointed - probably from Europe.
They will bring in 1 or 2 of their own coaching staff.
There will be a clear out of most of the other coaching staff presently at the club - but the club will insist that long term servants Devaney and Hassell remain.

Why some supporters want Hourihane as HC is beyond me.
He has no credentials for the job whatsoever.
Being a good player a few years ago doesn?t make him a good HC now.
There can be no sentimental favours when millions are at stake.

The next HC will have proved themselves in previous jobs - and will have shown that they can implement the way that the directors at Barnsley want to play.

[Shadrack the Red]

IMO this is what should happen - and I think will happen.
A new HC will be appointed - probably from Europe.
They will bring in 1 or 2 of their own coaching staff.
There will be a clear out of most of the other coaching staff presently at the club - but the club will insist that long term servants Devaney and Hassell remain.

Why some supporters want Hourihane as HC is beyond me.
He has no credentials for the job whatsoever.
Being a good player a few years ago doesn?t make him a good HC now.
There can be no sentimental favours when millions are at stake.

The next HC will have proved themselves in previous jobs - and will have shown that they can implement the way that the directors at Barnsley want to play.

So what you are saying is that every Hc anywhere in the game had all proved themselves at previous jobs , amazing !! that no Hc had a first job , its a good job that John Dennis gave Danny Wilson a start with no previous experience otherwise we would never have got in the premier league . It is obvious you have got a downer on Hourihane which is fine but you have no evidence to say that he cannot make a fist of it , you prefer this continuous repeat and rinse approach from our owners who sack a HC and others at great cost to the club and then we pay lumps of compensation to another club to bring another HC and all his support staff , it is costing us ? millions , no wonder we have spiralling debts and you know the best thing about this is that when the new HC hits a sticky patch you and cartloads more will be calling for his head and this lot of numpties will oblige thus taking the pressure off themselves and we start again with more cash been thrown down the river . It is time for a different approach , lets take a gamble , what have we got to lose ? give Conner the gig and if he fails so be it but it will at least buck the trend that is failing and you never know it might just work .

[Acido]

I'm not sure if I want Conor to get the job to be honest, for various reasons.
Maybe another full season for him as the assistant, to somebody else. Let him keep getting the experience etc, for now.
But this run of 10 games was/is a good time to give him a chance at least, and see what happens. 👍

[Young_Nudger]

Shads - ?what have we got to lose?.
Not much really - just another season of watching poor football.
But that definitely doesn?t apply to Neerav and the board who have ???millions at stake.

As for Danny Wilson - and you can add Hecky to that list - I didn?t want either of them.
And was proved wrong on both occasions.
So I do understand where yer coming from.
However - investment into the club wasn?t at the level it is now.
The board can ill afford to slip up this time.
At the very least we need to be top 6 next season.

[pass_and_move]

Shads - ?what have we got to lose?.
Not much really - just another season of watching poor football.
But that definitely doesn?t apply to Neerav and the board who have ???millions at stake.

As for Danny Wilson - and you can add Hecky to that list - I didn?t want either of them.
And was proved wrong on both occasions.
So I do understand where yer coming from.
However - investment into the club wasn?t at the level it is now.
The board can ill afford to slip up this time.
At the very least we need to be top 6 next season.

Not a chance of top 6 next season. Av said it to thi afooar, we'll be relegated to league 2 in the next 2/3 seasons. The decline of the club under this ownership is clear for all to see and the last 2 interviews with Neerav have only served to enhance that.

[Shadrack the Red]

Not a chance of top 6 next season. Av said it to thi afooar, we'll be relegated to league 2 in the next 2/3 seasons. The decline of the club under this ownership is clear for all to see and the last 2 interviews with Neerav have only served to enhance that.

You could well be right Pass , the gradual decline is a worry and Nudgers suggestion that Neerav and his buddies are investing is simply not true, it is true that they are putting millions into the club but that is to cover the mis management that is actually shipping the brass in the first place.

[Young_Nudger]

You could well be right Pass , the gradual decline is a worry and Nudgers suggestion that Neerav and his buddies are investing is simply not true, it is true that they are putting millions into the club but that is to cover the mis management that is actually shipping the brass in the first place.

Jeez !!!
That?s a very twisted view of reality on how things are in football right now.
Without the money going in then Barnsley simply would not have a football club.
All football clubs are on the hamster wheel - it?s unsustainable - but if an owner chooses to step off that wheel then that club is at real risk of folding.
Let?s hope Neerav keeps the faith in the club.

And these wanting new owners - what they are really asking for is someone to come in and put even more money into the club.
To return to a time when Barnsley?s recruitment consisted of trying to out bid other clubs for players - and more than often losing in the bidding war.
Thank God the club has moved on from that.