If we go up, who is good enough?

[ozleeds]

Rodon- Absolutely, solid bottom half defender A Yes for me.
Struijk- I sometimes think people massively over hype how good he is for someone who makes so many errors, but as a PL option he is fine.
A No for me too slow for premier league.
Ampadu- Yes, but I??d want him in midfield A NO no matter where he plays offer hyped not premier league material.
Darlow- As back up, fine as long as we have someone high quality as number one. Nothing wrong with him will handle it
Tanaka- Easily A Yes probably the find for the season.
Gruev- as a back up option A NO another hyped up player barely championship quality.
James- yep A YES first picked.
Solomon- we need to try sign for sure Depends on how much is ok if we cant afford big wages and fees.
Gnonto- yep A NO can't even get in a championship team too much Miss than Hit.
Ramazani- yep, but if Farke isn??t going to trust him then what??s the point, just replace and move on. Not seen enough since his injury hasn't shown much even though hardly plaid.

Overall if we don't go in with 8 much better players we will end up back down in a hurry.

Manager well Ange looks like losing his job no fault of his a season where all his players the best ones having long lay offs and basically playing with a third team. Will be a huge upgrade plays a similar Bielsa game but doesn't forget how to defend either.

[whitestomper45]

Yes just what we need, Spuds worst manager, grumpy when asked about his faults, stares at the ground in his interviews, losing the fans knows how to defend! Haha an upgrade

[Monaco_Totty]

Yes just what we need, Spuds worst manager, grumpy when asked about his faults, stares at the ground in his interviews, losing the fans knows how to defend! Haha an upgrade

Jeez, Leeds paid football agents almost 19m pounds between February 2024 & February 2025 according to a report by the FA.
Leeds payments accounted for nearly 30% of the Championships overall expenditure to agents with the next highest individual club figures belonging to Burnley 5.3m & Sheff Utd 4.4m.
Publication of payments & transactions link.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2025/apr/...actions-140425

Makes you wonder if we have been planning ahead for plan A of PL return ?

As for the permentations of any new Leeds Coach in future planning then I still think valued experience would be needed.
Psychology is part of the job and is part of the game with the players that are gonna have to be drafted in, imo.
So not ideal for an emerging upcomer into the game now been handed the Leeds rebuild job.

The way you deal with the press is not going to win matches as the Spurs coach currently demonstrates.
Winning games needs players on board, not easy blending a group of individual personalities when under pressure, for sure.
Still think Mourinho would be a good fit for us,WS, if we are gonna show DF the door.

[WTF11]

Postacogliu (or however you spell it), to Mourinho, the (not so) sublime to the ridiculous!

If (still an if, not a when), promotion is achieved, we need a manager who can;

1. Be a force to be reckoned with when new players are being lined up, needs to build THEIR team, not some DoFs idea of what that should be.

2. Adept at creating a team ethos, crucially being able to handle egos, and the blending of the skills and psychologies of the few players to be retained and those of the incomers, changing room atmosphere another key.

3. Equally adept at dealing with the media, and by that I don't mean dismissing them at Posta-whoever does, or insulting them as "the special one" is wont to do. Need the meedja on our side, not against us, it will be hard enough without having the 5th estate on the outside pi55ing in.

I think an English coach (if you could find one that fits the above (and more) would fit the "mood music" of a renewed LUFC out to stay put in the PL, however I suspect it won't be, which is a shame (IMHO) bearing in mind the journey that both new squad and new manager could be embarking on.

[Monaco_Totty]

Postacogliu (or however you spell it), to Mourinho, the (not so) sublime to the ridiculous!

If (still an if, not a when), promotion is achieved, we need a manager who can;

1. Be a force to be reckoned with when new players are being lined up, needs to build THEIR team, not some DoFs idea of what that should be.

2. Adept at creating a team ethos, crucially being able to handle egos, and the blending of the skills and psychologies of the few players to be retained and those of the incomers, changing room atmosphere another key.

3. Equally adept at dealing with the media, and by that I don't mean dismissing them at Posta-whoever does, or insulting them as "the special one" is wont to do. Need the meedja on our side, not against us, it will be hard enough without having the 5th estate on the outside pi55ing in.

I think an English coach (if you could find one that fits the above (and more) would fit the "mood music" of a renewed LUFC out to stay put in the PL, however I suspect it won't be, which is a shame (IMHO) bearing in mind the journey that both new squad and new manager could be embarking on.

So are you touting for the possibility of any Leeds job interview initiating global team building ?

To be fair all tongue in cheek but if DF gets the financial backing that Norwich defo did not give him then its all 'Vorsprung durch Technik' !

Too many still wrapped up in the legacy of the past regarding Head Coach roles as those 24/7 around them are crucial too.
A coachs backing is crucial for implementing a style because it provides the foundation for players to thrive, fostering a cohesive team & hopefully promoting a high-pressing, fluid style of play that we yearn for into the making.

Without that support, its difficult to implement the complex tactical intricacies & player versatility that defines the requirement for a successful team nowadays.

Of course what constitutes 'success' is another matter nowadays in the grand scheme of things or as the Germans will say regarding Norwich City 'Geiz ist geil' apparently anyway.

My reference to Mourinho is unlike some, in that I dont want Leeds to be everyone favourite team as I actually like the 'us against everyone' mentality to focus on.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Would quite like McKenna as he seems sensible, plays good football and seems good at developing players especially young ones.

Realistically we need to spend o
GK
LB
CB
CM
AM
ST

Whether we can find the right player at the right price ??

Harrison and Rasmus will return from loan but those two together with Wober, Firpo, Aaronson and Bambi are all likely to go.

[whitestomper45]

I know what you mean about the Special 1 Totty, it could work or end up similar to Cloughie. I?ve never seen him work the PL with let?s be fair is a team whose main goal for 3 seasons is to survive. He has lost the last 2 changing rooms he overseen in PL. Your call about Farke and the complete no backing from Norwich board was only going one way, he deserves his chance. My only reservation is the rumour that it was the board who insisted on he dropping Meslier, if so doesn?t bode well for Daniel.
McKenna and a few others are these stubborn types who want to play a certain way without having the players. Surely your style is dictated by the players you have for the league you were in now ie PL not league1 or Championship.

[WTF11]

I know what you mean about the Special 1 Totty, it could work or end up similar to Cloughie. I?ve never seen him work the PL with let?s be fair is a team whose main goal for 3 seasons is to survive. He has lost the last 2 changing rooms he overseen in PL. Your call about Farke and the complete no backing from Norwich board was only going one way, he deserves his chance. My only reservation is the rumour that it was the board who insisted on he dropping Meslier, if so doesn?t bode well for Daniel.
McKenna and a few others are these stubborn types who want to play a certain way without having the players. Surely your style is dictated by the players you have for the league you were in now ie PL not league1 or Championship.

And Farke isn't one if" these stubborn types who want to play a certain way without having the players". You expect him to change if we get to the PL (or be resolute enough to stand up to the board in order to get the players HE believes we need)?

[Monaco_Totty]

I know what you mean about the Special 1 Totty, it could work or end up similar to Cloughie. I?ve never seen him work the PL with let?s be fair is a team whose main goal for 3 seasons is to survive. He has lost the last 2 changing rooms he overseen in PL. Your call about Farke and the complete no backing from Norwich board was only going one way, he deserves his chance. My only reservation is the rumour that it was the board who insisted on he dropping Meslier, if so doesn?t bode well for Daniel.
McKenna and a few others are these stubborn types who want to play a certain way without having the players. Surely your style is dictated by the players you have for the league you were in now ie PL not league1 or Championship.

I can honestly say that most troubled footballers I have met in mental health rehab units with 'issues' all carried their own brand power which was getting difficult to control & many coaches found it hard to tame them - so egos matter when assembling a team.

Some Managers/Coaches who have proved themselves as top enders like Mourinho, Klopp & Guardiola come with their own ego which they can control those egotistical 'big time charlie' player types that can become disruptive.
Done because such authority comes with respect but it gets extremely difficult for mid level managers in such situations, for sure, for which I am informed reliably.

It all comes down to the management of the club on how to best communicate this to their star-players & to take the side of the manager/coach when it comes to any confrontation. There have been many examples in the past about the Chelsea players not being happy with their coach, not just Mourinho to be fair. Clubs often side with players because they cost so much too & any 'issues' can reduce transfers out ultimately, aka the Rashford public scenario currently & that begs the question who & why would you buy him ?

Which current players at Leeds have publicly attacked DF via press & media ?
Which past Leeds players have attacked DF publicly via press & media ?
Name a player at Leeds under DF with an overflated ego issue not calmed down ?

Maybe, he has more in his locker yet & with better players he deserves the PL chance with Leeds, imo.

The issue if PL is coming for Leeds & DF are the types of individuals coming in will be the real test, imo.
After the last Leeds PL player arrivals on big wage shenanigans via contracts offered by Victor then I just hope lessons learned & just hope that whoever our Manager/Coach is will have the 'balls' to curb any upset egos along said new journey, WS.

I listen to Hopey about younger British coaches but alot of the British coaches tend to be coaches that have been promoted into the PL, to be fair is often the reason explained to me.

So the reality is sadly, unless you are going to get massive financial backing from getting that jump from Championship to PL then you are going to be fighting to stay in the PL which is not a great scenario to show your blossoming talents, imo.

Just saying

[cherrypie7]

[QUOTE=Monaco_Totty;40691372]I can honestly say that most troubled footballers I have met in mental health rehab units with 'issues' all carried their own brand power which was getting difficult to control & many coaches found it hard to tame them - so egos matter when assembling a team.

It all comes down to the management of the club on how to best communicate this to their star-players & to take the side of the manager/coach when it comes to any confrontation. There have been many examples in the past about the Chelsea players not being happy with their coach, not just Mourinho to be fair.

The problem is have with Mourinho is he has never ever been a manager who has tried to blood local youth talent from the U21 ranks. Never. He always tries to build his teams by purchasing players.