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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    No, what particular tragedy were they chanting about?

    Or didn?t you hear it first hand?
    Making patronising comments Grist doesn?t take away from the fact that you know what they were singing about.
    Cam has already said that it could be labelled as something else.
    That said it is tragedy chanting full grown men referring constantly to young girls getting raped in which 1 girl I?m aware of took her own life I would say is a tragedy.
    Maybe the fact you are more interested in patronising someone who highlighted this as wrong than accepting it?s wrong says more about you than anyone else. You should probably have been in the away end with like minded folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back of the net View Post
    Making patronising comments Grist doesn?t take away from the fact that you know what they were singing about.
    Cam has already said that it could be labelled as something else.
    That said it is tragedy chanting full grown men referring constantly to young girls getting raped in which 1 girl I?m aware of took her own life I would say is a tragedy.
    Maybe the fact you are more interested in patronising someone who highlighted this as wrong than accepting it?s wrong says more about you than anyone else. You should probably have been in the away end with like minded folk.
    Ah so it?s a case of the definition of tragedy. To me Hillsborough was a tragedy, Munich was a tragedy.

    Rotherham Asians raping young girls and the following cover up is a scandal. Something that is probably continuing. A scandal not a tragedy but I can see why folks lump them together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Ah so it?s a case of the definition of tragedy. To me Hillsborough was a tragedy, Munich was a tragedy.

    Rotherham Asians raping young girls and the following cover up is a scandal. Something that is probably continuing. A scandal not a tragedy but I can see why folks lump them together.
    I rest my case you belong with the ones chanting it. Cam has already said maybe a different definition I?ve said that too but you would focus on the wording than the issue at the match.
    Whatever the wording grown men chanting about rape of young girls is wrong to most people. I say most but unfortunately uneducated people still exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back of the net View Post
    I rest my case you belong with the ones chanting it. Cam has already said maybe a different definition I?ve said that too but you would focus on the wording than the issue at the match.
    Whatever the wording grown men chanting about rape of young girls is wrong to most people. I say most but unfortunately uneducated people still exist.
    But are they chanting about the rape of young girls or pointing out that Rotherham is a hot spot for it?

    Either way it?s lazy to lump those types of chanting with ? tragedy chanting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    But are they chanting about the rape of young girls or pointing out that Rotherham is a hot spot for it?

    Either way it?s lazy to lump those types of chanting with ? tragedy chanting?
    Strictly speaking Grist, Hillsborough and Munich were disasters in common speak so do they deserve to be considered tragedies? Of course they do so the umbrella term tragedy can cover a whole host of events. It's just semantics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HensonsPRman View Post
    That maybe the case with Managers contracts but it is not the case with players contracts, the only way to get rid of a player early is to offer him a compromise arrangement to terminate his contract early and that means make a lump sum payment to terminate the contract.
    Cheers Henson, some people just don't get how things work out, maybe they cant remember the Schofield/ Blackstock days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avondalemiller View Post
    Cheers Henson, some people just don't get how things work out, maybe they cant remember the Schofield/ Blackstock days.
    I also think some people don't appreciate how budgets work avondale.
    It's all very well people saying "get rid of this or that player" but even if that proved possible because both parties were able to reach an agreement, the pay-off money would have to come out of the budget thus leaving less available to rebuild the squad. It seems highly unlikely that TS will be prepared to significantly increase the budget just to get rid of a few contracted players who haven't delivered much.
    Matt Hamshaw is faced with a difficult balancing act because he's almost certainly going to have to keep some players that he'd probably rather move on.
    Interesting times ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowmiller View Post
    I also think some people don't appreciate how budgets work avondale.
    It's all very well people saying "get rid of this or that player" but even if that proved possible because both parties were able to reach an agreement, the pay-off money would have to come out of the budget thus leaving less available to rebuild the squad. It seems highly unlikely that TS will be prepared to significantly increase the budget just to get rid of a few contracted players who haven't delivered much.
    Matt Hamshaw is faced with a difficult balancing act because he's almost certainly going to have to keep some players that he'd probably rather move on.
    Interesting times ahead.
    Or you make life more awkward for a player ( ie not picking him) so him and his agent become more reasonable with their demands so they can move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Or you make life more awkward for a player ( ie not picking him) so him and his agent become more reasonable with their demands so they can move on.
    Most of them are injured so can't be picked anyway!

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    I took note that a lot of play started for Mansfield Town, came from 26 year old centre back Alfie Kilgour,
    he was directing a lot of balls forward for Mansfield Town, a decent centre back.

    Today Easter Monday Mansfield Town lost 1-5 at home to Reading.
    Alfie Kilgour went off injured in the 46th minute, with Reading leading 1-0, after Kilgour went off the team
    fell apart.
    Alfie Kilgour 27 year old in May, out of contract June 2025, a solid centre-back, could be worth a punt.

    Ps Alfie Kilgour is 6 foot 3 inches - 1.90 metres so should pass the height test.

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