Rangers v Aberdeen

[The_Moog]

Panic! ... Panic! .... Panic! .....

Fk sake guys ..... we have a squad of relatively young guys with potential to grow/develop. We'll get/do better ...consistently from here onwards.

Yesterday we canna change ... but tomorrow?

Disagree? Fair enough, but but how about ye stop draggin us down? Go cheer on Cove or the likes ......

Well gubbed yesterday, but it's now today .... Ah'll say the same on Thurs whether we win/lose/draw v the VicTims .......

Take stock. Last season we were 'bottom six' ... this season we are top six .... and Sc cup finalists.

Whatever .... we are a team set up to grow up... Worst case scenario? We'll do OK .

Sorry neeps, I usually enjoy yer posts min, even if I need google translate half the time, but yer way off the mark here IMO.

Nobodys panicking, the usual attention seeker is doing his usual thing, but everyone else is just calling out a completely unacceptable performance.

Ive praised them plenty this year, as have most on here. Ive criticised them plenty too when deserved as have most, and yesterday it was 100% deserved.

Everyone gets beat. Aberdeen FC especially get beat a lot. Nature of the beast. Its how you get beat that matters though.

Yesterday every single one of them quit on their stool and just gave up. Chucked it. Threw in the towel. Shat the bed. Call it what you want.

That is never, and will always be never ever remotely acceptable.

As Mason said attitude, fitness, effort should just be a given with any player regardless of ability. With this lot its not far too often (and its been like that for many years now too). Until that fundamentally changes, we are going nowhere.

[Mason89]

The goals we?ve conceded this year have been appalling. The Hibs equaliser at Easter Rd was the worst Ive ever seen. It couldve been stopped about 10 times before it went in. The one from the throw in at Tannadump, the long balls over the top that Motherwell & St. Mirren scored, the ones yesterday, we dont half make things hard for ourselves.

It?s great that Jimmy has a plan of how to play the game but until we get the players that can actually do it, we are going to get pumped. Even if we just stopped trying to play it out from the back every single time & made an effort to mark people at set pieces, wed solve a lot of problems. We beat ourselves most weeks.

It?s a race now between Jimmy sorting it and the fans patience. I think his inability to change will see him out the door before the end of next season, which is a shame

[Mason89]

The flip side to that is that on the rare occasions the plan does actually work, it?s still pretty dull ineffective football

[rico94]

I think one of the biggest problems we have is that we have assembled a squad of inconsistent players over the years.

Most of the players we have are good on their day but those days are few and far between.

The commentator on Sky sports said at the beginning of the game that Jamie McGrath got 6 assists in his first 8 games this season and none in his last 14 games, cant see a lot of fans bothered about him going to Hibs.

Leighton Clarkson clearly has talent and ability but he doesnt show it often enough, he has looked good since Thelin started playing him deeper in midfield but has gone missing again in the last few games, the 4 managers he has had in his time with us havent been able to get a tune out of him so I dont have much confidence that the 5th manager will be able to either.

Maybe thats why these guys are here and thats the type of player we can afford, players who have plenty of ability but dont show it often enough.

[TheDeeDon]

I think one of the biggest problems we have is that we have assembled a squad of inconsistent players over the years.

Most of the players we have are good on their day but those days are few and far between.

The commentator on Sky sports said at the beginning of the game that Jamie McGrath got 6 assists in his first 8 games this season and none in his last 14 games, cant see a lot of fans bothered about him going to Hibs.

Leighton Clarkson clearly has talent and ability but he doesnt show it often enough, he has looked good since Thelin started playing him deeper in midfield but has gone missing again in the last few games, the 4 managers he has had in his time with us havent been able to get a tune out of him so I dont have much confidence that the 5th manager will be able to either.

Maybe thats why these guys are here and thats the type of player we can afford, players who have plenty of ability but dont show it often enough.

Clarkson is a clearly talented player, so what is stopping him doing what he does best. Who is playing alongside him?
The opposition stopping him finding space?
Form?

Him alongside Polvara yesterday was never going to work, but I get why Jimmy dropped Palaversa.

Okkels is a player we have because he has struggled with injury for a few years and it has shown when he plays for us.
By playing Okkels, we then put Topi on the right, which weakens us further and have seen this time and time again over the past few months.


No danger that midfield four was getting us points at Ibrox, but would Palaversa in the middle. Topi on the left and Shayden on the right been any better?

McGrath is gone, but the lad has just recently came back from injury. Four months out is not a period you bounce back to your best after some minutes.
He is a good player and won't be easily replaced and should do well for Hibs.

Despite spending money, our squad is fairly poor and clearly players who either just aren't good enough or can't play Thelinball.

Our season changed last year with the siging of Hoilet.
The boy had a quality about him, despite his age, that is clearly lacking this season.

Even having a player like that in training or on the bench, helps others in the team raise their game and is a far better option off the bench than some of what we've got.

[The_Moog]

Maybe thats why these guys are here and thats the type of player we can afford, players who have plenty of ability but dont show it often enough.

This certainly seems to be part of the issue.

Theres a significant chunk of that team we have paid in the region of 500-800k for in transfer fees.

Is that spend generating significant improvements?

Are these players a clear level above the majority of the SPFL journeymen they face each week?

On current evidence (and previous when we have opened the purse strings in the past) you would have to say no.

I saw a quote somewhere that Keskinen is basically a million pound Connor McLennan. Theres a level of truth to that.

So really, if spending that level of money does not actually differentiate you in any meaningful way from the dross of the league, whats the point of forking that cash out.

Be as well filling yer team with your own bunch of honest trier journeymen if the results and outcome are gonna be pretty much the same.

Id certainly be beginning to think that if I was Dave C.

[blowupsheep]

Sorry neeps, I usually enjoy yer posts min, even if I need google translate half the time, but yer way off the mark here IMO.

Nobodys panicking, the usual attention seeker is doing his usual thing, but everyone else is just calling out a completely unacceptable performance.

Ive praised them plenty this year, as have most on here. Ive criticised them plenty too when deserved as have most, and yesterday it was 100% deserved.

Everyone gets beat. Aberdeen FC especially get beat a lot. Nature of the beast. Its how you get beat that matters though.

Yesterday every single one of them quit on their stool and just gave up. Chucked it. Threw in the towel. Shat the bed. Call it what you want.

That is never, and will always be never ever remotely acceptable.

As Mason said attitude, fitness, effort should just be a given with any player regardless of ability. With this lot its not far too often (and its been like that for many years now too). Until that fundamentally changes, we are going nowhere.

totally agree with this word for fkn word 100% spot on Moog, could not have put it any better than that masel