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  1. #1
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    Truth

    We all know, the team that kicked the last ball this season was much weaker than the team that kicked the last ball last season. If Bros want to continue this tippy tappy fantasy, then they need to provide players that can actually do it. Players with experience. Players, and "coach" that can deliver. Not kids. Not have never beens. Basically, Bros have funded an expensive **** show. It's not good enough. If owners have a brand, that's fine. But get your cheque book out and pay for players that can deliver now. No projects. Customers move on from products they don't like. Or, get a manager that is able to shape a a squad. Wrexham were our peers. Now it's probably more like Newport.
    Last edited by Woodypie; 18-05-2025 at 11:14 PM.

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    Owners move on from projects they don't like too. We have a lot to thank the bros for, but I understand what you are saying. Our transfer strategy of finding young/out of favour gems, selling them on, and finding new gems to replace them was working well for a while. We managed to replace Wootton with Langstaff and Rodrigues with Crowley. But it's a tricky strategy to maintain. I think for the first time since the bros took charge, that strategy has resulted in our team being weaker. Selling your best, most creative player in the middle of a promotion campaign to a L2 rival isn't what teams that are serious about promotion do. I know he wanted away, but you also have to ask why.

    Perhaps the bros need to be more upfront about the club's priorities and aims. If the primary aim is financial stability and breaking even, that's great, but if that means L2 stagnation then fans will eventually drift away. The club still has some momentum, but its fading.

    I like what the bros are trying to do. I don't agree with the style of football, simply because I don't think it's effective or even entertaining to watch most of the time. Still, I admire that they have given us an identity and a sense of stability and continuity. But if we are serious about progression on the pitch, there will surely come a time when we need to keep our best players - like all the other promotion contenders do - and buy top players off other clubs as well. Ultimately, we'd be playing in L1 next season if we'd kept Langstaff, Nemane, and Crowley.

    Big summer coming up.

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    Just what we need, another thread started for someone to cry.
    Supporters are not customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogslater View Post
    Just what we need, another thread started for someone to cry.
    Supporters are not customers.
    It’s also great spending other peoples money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    It?s also great spending other peoples money.
    Thats a fair point. However if theyre going to do things *sustainably* (to some) or *on the cheap* (to others) its even more important that they get recruitment, both on and off the pitch, right.

    The head coach being most important of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogslater View Post
    Just what we need, another thread started for someone to cry.
    Supporters are not customers.
    Some valid questions raised in the OP, though.

    What’s interesting is the talk of stagnation when we have clearly progressed based solely on league position (from 14th to 6th).

    The problem is what we’re witnessing: lack of entertaining football on the pitch under SM and selling our prime assets at the expense of the team. That does send out a negative message to supporters: we are prioritising finances over promotion. That’s understandable, obviously, but the owners should perhaps clarify how they see us progressing if they are to maintain the same philosophy of having a “competitive budget” despite us presumably being the best supported club in the division next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nw6pie View Post
    Some valid questions raised in the OP, though.

    What?s interesting is the talk of stagnation when we have clearly progressed based solely on league position (from 14th to 6th).

    The problem is what we?re witnessing: lack of entertaining football on the pitch under SM and selling our prime assets at the expense of the team. That does send out a negative message to supporters: we are prioritising finances over promotion. That?s understandable, obviously, but the owners should perhaps clarify how they see us progressing if they are to maintain the same philosophy of having a ?competitive budget? despite us presumably being the best supported club in the division next season.
    Do you think we will be the best supported club next season? With how we have played recently and the lack of passion in the team, looks like Maynard will be in charge! No statement from the Bros on their intentions I can see us back to the diehard 5000 !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poultonmagpie View Post
    Do you think we will be the best supported club next season? With how we have played recently and the lack of passion in the team, looks like Maynard will be in charge! No statement from the Bros on their intentions I can see us back to the diehard 5000 !!
    We've already shifted 5,600 Season tickets but I do think crowds will start to drop off next season. A lot of people simply won't tolerate another season in this crap division. I expect it to start at 9,000 and then drop to 8,000 or even 7,500 which would still be good but what's the point if we don';t have a good budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogslater View Post
    Just what we need, another thread started for someone to cry.
    Supporters are not customers.
    So, if Liverpool or Man City were in the National League they would have the same amount of Supporters? Supporters are customers and when you start to take them for granted you're on a downward spiral. Do you think the Bros's projections for the club are not based on increasing the fan base to increase revenue? Increasing the fan base is tough enough with the attraction of Forest over the Trent, but getting any additional supporters into Meadow Lane and importantly keeping them engaged and coming down on a regular basis is the key, and that I'm afraid is down to entertainment and like it or not Notts are in the entertainment business with Supporters / Customers having plenty of other options in these hard times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keldsyke View Post
    Increasing the fan base is tough enough with the attraction of Forest over the Trent,
    In a year or so's time, their capacity will apparently be increased by 12,000.

    So the question would be - Are there currently 12k Fword fans who can't or struggle to get tickets not going to football matches, watching it on TV and waiting for the ground to be re-developed? Or are there say 5-10% of those 12k going to Notts instead for the time being? 600-1200 would not be not an insignificant number to Notts, if the latter scenario was the case.
    How many young supporters have Notts hoovered up in recent years that weren't able to go to Fword because of a supply/demand issue? Will that well dry up when they increase their capacity?

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