O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[BigFatPie]

For those advocating for Reform, Farage missed yesterday?s debate on the EU deal because he was on holiday in France.

Because famously MPs dont get enough time off when parliament isnt sitting.

[Elite_Pie]

For those advocating for Reform, Farage missed yesterday?s debate on the EU deal because he was on holiday in France.

Because famously MPs dont get enough time off when parliament isnt sitting.

He's got previous for not being arsed about doing his job:

Farage, who was an MEP for 18 years, had an abysmal attendance record, ranked 748 out of 751 MEPs and taking part in only 37% of votes.

And he's barely been seen in Clacton, even though his job as MP is to represent the people there:

Farage has held no local surgeries to date and has not yet set up an office in the constituency. Beyond a bald Clacton Reform email address (he also has a parliamentary profile page), he has published no specific guidance on how to get in touch on local matters, and some residents say they have tried repeatedly to reach him without success.

He's far too busy making millions from his other jobs and sucking up to Trump. Yet many see him as the person to run the country!

[BigFatPie]

He's got previous for not being arsed about doing his job:

Farage, who was an MEP for 18 years, had an abysmal attendance record, ranked 748 out of 751 MEPs and taking part in only 37% of votes.

And he's barely been seen in Clacton, even though his job as MP is to represent the people there:

Farage has held no local surgeries to date and has not yet set up an office in the constituency. Beyond a bald Clacton Reform email address (he also has a parliamentary profile page), he has published no specific guidance on how to get in touch on local matters, and some residents say they have tried repeatedly to reach him without success.

He's far too busy making millions from his other jobs and sucking up to Trump. Yet many see him as the person to run the country!

I shouldnt but I find it astonishing how non existent the standards that are applied to that bloke. Not just in the way he never does the jobs that hes been elected to but in the piss poor level of detail in his so called policies.

No income tax on anything under 20 grand. With no further info on how that revenue will be replaced. Can you imagine if Corbyn had come up with that?

[Lullapie]

Good to see that the two ugly sisters are back in action together.

NCM's very own tag team - Big Fat Daddy and Elite Haystacks. It doesn't take much to get them to come out (of retirement) when there's a red cause to be defended.

[Med Pie]

I shouldnt but I find it astonishing how non existent the standards that are applied to that bloke. Not just in the way he never does the jobs that hes been elected to but in the piss poor level of detail in his so called policies.

No income tax on anything under 20 grand. With no further info on how that revenue will be replaced. Can you imagine if Corbyn had come up with that?

I think that you'll find that most of those on 20K or under, will probably recoup any taxes they pay, in 'supplementary benefits' already. The fact that we are now a low wage economy with very few skilled, well paid jobs, has created a system which is doomed to fall in to bankruptcy, there are simply not enough people who can afford to pay tax yet the government want to admit another couple of million people to the country, people who also won't be paying tax or in some cases, national insurance as well.

Anyone paying 500 quid a month in rent or mortgage and many will be paying more than that, will be losing almost a third of that income straight away and anyone on minimum wage would be losing 40%.

[SmiffyPie]

I think that you'll find that most of those on 20K or under, will probably recoup any taxes they pay, in 'supplementary benefits' already. The fact that we are now a low wage economy with very few skilled, well paid jobs, has created a system which is doomed to fall in to bankruptcy, there are simply not enough people who can afford to pay tax yet the government want to admit another couple of million people to the country, people who also won't be paying tax or in some cases, national insurance as well.

Anyone paying 500 quid a month in rent or mortgage and many will be paying more than that, will be losing almost a third of that income straight away and anyone on minimum wage would be losing 40%.

I thought it was no tax on people that earn ?20k or less but it's a suggestion that the tax allowance for all is increased to ?20k. Apart from the question of how does the lost tax revenue get recouped (which is a valid point) it was almost funny to see the politics of envy kick in straight away (the well off will be better off etc).

[Med Pie]

Giving money away, overseas again when it's so badly needed at home.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/clyvv04wk8zt

and he's already manipulating the figures.

A journalist from the Financial Times asks for more clarity on cost.

Shouldn't the figure actually be closer to ?10bn rather than ?3.4bn if you multiply the average yearly cost of ?101m across the deal's 99 years?

Starmer responds that ?3.4bn is the "net cost", and explains that this is how the government and the Office for Budget Responsibility measures spending on similar projects.

[LincsPie]

I thought it was no tax on people that earn ?20k or less but it's a suggestion that the tax allowance for all is increased to ?20k. Apart from the question of how does the lost tax revenue get recouped (which is a valid point) it was almost funny to see the politics of envy kick in straight away (the well off will be better off etc).

The Reform 'contract' (not a manifesto apparently), is to raise the allowance to 20k. So individuals earning much more than that would also benefit.

[BigFatPie]

I thought it was no tax on people that earn ?20k or less but it's a suggestion that the tax allowance for all is increased to ?20k. Apart from the question of how does the lost tax revenue get recouped (which is a valid point) it was almost funny to see the politics of envy kick in straight away (the well off will be better off etc).

Yes the question of how that revenue would be replaced is the one, but I dont expect any representatives of Reform ltd to be asked difficult questions any time soon.