Maynard GONE [Official]

[JoePass]

I doubt it will be Luke

Good.

[DoddingtonPie]

Good.

Thankfully, the rumours of your demise were greatly exaggerated

[Bohinen]

I think the statement is quietly brutal. They make it clear that the decision has been made on the basis of fact, and not on a whim, when they say 'neither results nor performances reached the levels we believe the team was capable of'. And they presumably have the data to back that up. Maybe he was Montague's choice.

The final parting shot of 'We are highly optimistic about the club's future' could almost have 'now he's gone' in brackets after it.

[Poultonmagpie]

A quick return for Williams, probably. Or a young manger from Finland. Who knows!

We need experience a manger who has proven he or she can win and gain promotion.

[Old_pie]

We need experience a manger who has proven he or she can win and gain promotion.

Oh you mean like the great Jimmy Sirrel? What promotion did he have on his CV before coming to us? Or Warnock, who couldn't get Scarborough out of the division we find ourselves in?

[upthemaggies]

Oh you mean like the great Jimmy Sirrel? What promotion did he have on his CV before coming to us? Or Warnock, who couldn't get Scarborough out of the division we find ourselves in?

Sirrel was in a promotion spot with Brentford at the time he came to us (they had been mid-table when he took over). It probably would be fair to say though there was an element of desperation involved with Dunnett having had at least two people known to have turned the Notts job down over the course of a year, likely more than that privately. Jack Wheeler had been caretaker for all of that time.

To say Warnock couldn't get Scarborough out of tier 4 is disingenuous, he'd got them promoted to that level, consolidated well in their first ever FL season and then left them in an automatic promotion spot when he came to us (they were also averaging less than 3k, so very much overachieving).

[Old_pie]

Sirrel was in a promotion spot with Brentford at the time he came to us (they had been mid-table when he took over). It probably would be fair to say though there was an element of desperation involved with Dunnett having had at least two people known to have turned the Notts job down over the course of a year, likely more than that privately. Jack Wheeler had been caretaker for all of that time.

To say Warnock couldn't get Scarborough out of tier 4 is disingenuous, he'd got them promoted to that level, consolidated well in their first ever FL season and then left them in an automatic promotion spot when he came to us (they were also averaging less than 3k, so very much overachieving).

So as I said, no league promotion on their CVs in response to 'We need experience a manger who has proven he or she can win and gain promotion.'

They were obviously seen as up and coming managers with potential and Sirrel was well known first hand to Dunnett at the time.

Anyway I'm looking forward to a woman taking on the role, surely there is one around who has gained a promotion

[northpie1862]

We need experience a manger who has proven he or she can win and gain promotion.

Ahhh yes this method has proved wildly succesful for Notts, Ardley, Ince, Sheridan, Cooper...

[Notts78]

We need experience a manger who has proven he or she can win and gain promotion.

Are you saying no to LW?

[upthemaggies]

If it's LW, that's great. If not, that's OK too.

Nobody would be surprised and I would guess upwards of 9/10 would happily go with that decision.

I haven't got the stats but I would imagine managers who go back are rarely able to equal or better what they achieved previously. Closer to home however it very much worked out for us. The difference though is that Sirrel came back to pull the club away from an early season relegation scrap (No wins from the opening 9 games including 1-4 and 1-5 defeats). LW would return under more pressure to hit the ground running and to sustain it. He most likely would be able to do that, but start average-badly and the same gripes that began to be expressed towards the end of his tenure would no doubt soon re-surface. There would be some risk involved with that appointment, probably not a big one, but the potential for egg on faces in returning to an ex is definitely there.

There are a few other examples of Notts managers having 2nd spells, though Tim Coleman, Gary Brazil and David Kevan were all cases of stepping up from an existing role and then returning to a lesser role, only to be thrust back into the hot seat again. Steve Thompson was a bizarre case of being sacked and then being brought back many years later.