Williams is Favourite [New Head Coach speculation thread]

[Bohinen]

Can't take the betting odds as any guide at all. My guess would be IF Alves is to be involved he would be the experienced guide for a younger manager.

But what experience does he have to guide anyone? I think Football Radar need to back off and leave it to the professionals.

Having said that, Wilshere is back in the frame, and has no real experience as a manager. But I wouldn't be against him, to be fair, at least we might get some press attention.

[M0ufMk3]

But what experience does he have to guide anyone? I think Football Radar need to back off and leave it to the professionals.

Having said that, Wilshere is back in the frame, and has no real experience as a manager. But I wouldn't be against him, to be fair, at least we might get some press attention.

Having had a second think, I reckon Wilshere would be a risk but one worth taking. After all, he know what good looks like and, with a clean injury free run, he could have been an international mainstay who played with intelligence and commitment. And one of my very favourite non-Notts players so a bit of bias creeping in.

[slack_pie]

Having had a second think, I reckon Wilshere would be a risk but one worth taking. After all, he know what good looks like and, with a clean injury free run, he could have been an international mainstay who played with intelligence and commitment. And one of my very favourite non-Notts players so a bit of bias creeping in.

I agree. Definitely a risk in that he has little to no experience, but if you're going to go for an inexperienced and risky coach anyway, he'd be an exciting and interesting choice.

You can't deny his pedigree. He was a fantastic footballer who offered something pretty unique for an English midfielder at that time. Plus, he was managed by one of the greats in Arsene Wenger. He'd certainly command respect based on that alone, in a way that Maynard never could. Great contacts in the game too.

If he were to do well, he'd be off to join a bigger club pretty fast I'd imagine. But that's the nature of the business.

[Jampie]

Alves has only been a league coach for a year.

Prior to that he has 8 years coaching experience up to head football coach at a university, and 8 years as an analyst and another year as an "assistant" in notts county.

While that's a great background to start your career as a head coach or manager, it still makes him a basic newbie at it at our level and I don't regard him as a credible candidate.

If he went to head up a NL team and outperformed his budget by a wide margin for a couple of years? Then I'd consider it. But he just doesn't have the competitive experience we would need.

It would be a huge risk to sign him into the role and with the owners still pitching in... what is it, still at least two million pounds a year at this level, even with all the players we recently sold? I don't see them taking that risk.

[Rez1862]

Wilshire now favourite again at 7/4 from 10s earlier

[lunaspie]

Good to see it spin in Wheelchair's favour again.

[the_anticlough]

I've got fond memories of the Moniz era as well, but he gets off a bit lightly I think.

He's got a relegation and the worst final day relegation fiasco ever at Gillingham to his name. And a cup defeat to the then non-league Salford. Yeah, the Branson thing was terrible for him, but weren't we staying up at 2-1 down, only to not understand and go for it and let in another, and 3-1 relegated us?

[kill_the_drum]

If he were to do well, he'd be off to join a bigger club pretty fast I'd imagine. But that's the nature of the business.

Exactly, only 15 managers out of 92 clubs have surpassed 3 years.
One way or another, a manager is rarely going to be with us long.
As frustrating as it is to see managers leaving for bigger clubs, it?s a far better indication of our own trajectory than when we sack one.
Here?s hoping our next 5 managers leave us for bigger clubs!

[slack_pie]

Exactly, only 15 managers out of 92 clubs have surpassed 3 years.
One way or another, a manager is rarely going to be with us long.
As frustrating as it is to see managers leaving for bigger clubs, it?s a far better indication of our own trajectory than when we sack one.
Here?s hoping our next 5 managers leave us for bigger clubs!

They do seem to leave us pretty quickly though. I know they are in a different league both literally and financially, but teams like Wrexham and Stockport have kept managers through multiple promotions. Clough is still at Mansfield. The Cowleys stayed at Lincoln through two promotions and an epic FA Cup run. I don't see any of the teams promoted this season from L2 losing their managers to a bigger club this summer. Why is that?

The one time in my 35 years supporting the club that we've had sustained success was under Warnock, who stayed despite being successful and even turned down offers to join a bigger club. Fat Sam buggered off after one promotion. We somehow didn't retain Cotterill despite the miracles he worked in a short time. LW left six months after getting us promoted.

[Notts78]

They do seem to leave us pretty quickly though. I know they are in a different league both literally and financially, but teams like Wrexham and Stockport have kept managers through multiple promotions. Clough is still at Mansfield. The Cowleys stayed at Lincoln through two promotions and an epic FA Cup run. I don't see any of the teams promoted this season from L2 losing their managers to a bigger club this summer. Why is that?

The one time in my 35 years supporting the club that we've had sustained success was under Warnock, who stayed despite being successful and even turned down offers to join a bigger club. Fat Sam buggered off after one promotion. We somehow didn't retain Cotterill despite the miracles he worked in a short time. LW left six months after getting us promoted.

These things happen.

The Notts model is one that is mirrored further up the pyramid in that we have a head coach rather than manager. All of the managers you mention above are managers and will have a greater say in the day to day running of the club including transfers.
I?d also suggest that the way we play (despite the level we are at) is one that would seem attractive to clubs higher up the pyramid. Clough has done OK higher up, but also had failures. My instinct is that Parkinson will be sacked at Wrexham this season once the owners realise his style of play will get butchered in The Championship.