O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Med Pie]

His is still an ongoing legal case so the best thing would be is to not comment at all.

Connolly pleaded guilty to incitement during nationwide race based riots. If she was a brown person there would be a lot less upset about it.

Now you're just being silly, very disappointing.

Again, LC was badly advised to plead guilty and should have opted for a jury trial.

[i961pie]

His is still an ongoing legal case so the best thing would be is to not comment at all.

Connolly pleaded guilty to incitement during nationwide race based riots. If she was a brown person there would be a lot less upset about it.

You seem to have this obsession with brown people.

[Med Pie]

In the LC case, because she pleaded guilty, based on bad, legal advice IMO, her words were never forensically examined to try and understand the meaning and likely, realistic, effect that these words would have had on the wider public. This analysis would also have taken in to account just how many people viewed the comments as compared with say RG.

A jury would have provided that analysis and come to a more common sense decision, I believe.

The problem on this forum is that the law is not being perceived in a legalistic way, it is instead being interpreted based on political leanings. The judiciary is also to blame as they have undoubtedly, in my mind, been influenced in their sentencing, by government rhetoric, especially Starmer's.

[BigFatPie]

In the LC case, because she pleaded guilty, based on bad, legal advice IMO, her words were never forensically examined to try and understand the meaning and likely, realistic, effect that these words would have had on the wider public. This analysis would also have taken in to account just how many people viewed the comments as compared with say RG.

A jury would have provided that analysis and come to a more common sense decision, I believe.

The problem on this forum is that the law is not being perceived in a legalistic way, it is instead being interpreted based on political leanings. The judiciary is also to blame as they have undoubtedly, in my mind, been influenced in their sentencing, by government rhetoric, especially Starmer's.

I recognise those words as English but the way theyve been put together make no sense. She committed the crime, she pleaded guilty, she was sentenced accordingly, she has now lost an appeal. It?s very simple.

[Med Pie]

I recognise those words as English but the way theyve been put together make no sense. She committed the crime, she pleaded guilty, she was sentenced accordingly, she has now lost an appeal. It?s very simple.

You're blinded by partizan, leftist, politics.

These are the same politics that espouse freedoms whilst locking people up for things they say. The same politics that claim to support free speech whilst cancelling and de-platforming anyone who dares have an opposing view. You have never defended any of the accusations that people have leveled at this government, instead, you go straight in to ad hominem attacks, trying to discredit anybody or any news source who disagrees with you.

You've even managed to bring race in to the LC debate because you have no genuine defence of the situation, pathetic.

[Observerpie]

His is still an ongoing legal case so the best thing would be is to not comment at all.

Connolly pleaded guilty to incitement during nationwide race based riots. If she was a brown person there would be a lot less upset about it.

Yet your man Starmer referred to the ones convicted in the Southport riots as criminals before they were convicted, he's very choosy about who he condemns.

[BigFatPie]

Yet your man Starmer referred to the ones convicted in the Southport riots as criminals before they were convicted, he's very choosy about who he condemns.

Because you can look at a video of a group of people rioting and say *theyre criminals* or *thats criminal behaviour*. What you cant do (or shouldnt) is name an individual and say *hes a criminal* while that legal case is still ongoing and he hasnt pleaded guilty or been convicted.

[Med Pie]

It seems that POTUS has been approached and asked to consider offering political asylum to those convicted of free speech issues as well as Tommy Robinson.

There has also been an approach to POTUS to consider using tariffs to leverage the release of LC.

This would be a huge, stain on the reputation of the UK and this government if any of this were (true) even considered by Trump.

[forwardmagpie]

I recognise those words as English but the way theyve been put together make no sense. She committed the crime, she pleaded guilty, she was sentenced accordingly, she has now lost an appeal. It?s very simple.

I think that history will show you are on the wrong side of this argument. I think it will show that there was little justification in this sentence.

[Elite_Pie]

These are the same politics that espouse freedoms whilst locking people up for things they say. The same politics that claim to support free speech.

Inciting people to kill others isn't free speech, it's breaking the law.

It applies in both cases, so both should face the consequences.