O/T Liverpool car tragedy

[SithHappens]

I never really started going to games until after I got a car and it was post Hillsborough.

Then it was early 2000s before my dad and me got our season tickets. I have never seen any proper trouble, it's more people trying to act hard more than anything.

The 2 seasons in League one I noticed away fans seemed more intent on intimidating people or trying to act tough, but I think it was still more just puffing their chests out trying to look the big man.

Only time I've witnessed someone actually threaten someone was a 30 something leeds fan in what was Starbucks at PP, he'd tried to use the toilets but wasn't buying a coffee and the staff weren't having it, he'd already had an argument with security on the door and somehow got in, an old guy, guessing late 70s said to him to just leave and the leeds fan threatened to have him outside, but security dealt with him.

[Andy_Faber]

Then it was early 2000s before my dad and me got our season tickets. I have never seen any proper trouble, it's more people trying to act hard more than anything.

The 2 seasons in League one I noticed away fans seemed more intent on intimidating people or trying to act tough, but I think it was still more just puffing their chests out trying to look the big man.

I've been going to 'the match' since 1969 and I've only ever seen violence from a distance, I always made sure I was in a place in the ground where it wasn't likely to 'kick off'. It strikes me that (for the most part, innocent bystanders excluded) those that suffer physical harm at the footy are those that go looking for a rumble and aren't very good at it. Being violent is a bit pathetic IMO, but acting/talking hard, especially if also not actually being hard is possibly worse.