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    MA is reading what those posts say; rA is reading what he wants them to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    MA is reading what those posts say; rA is reading what he wants them to say
    It was MA who actually referred, in post 3644, to - well paid accountants who are experts in tax avoidance, tax evasion, tax havens, entering into agreements with governments that sees them pay little to no tax - so ask yourself who appears to be struggling to read and comprehend.

    It was you who made some snide and meaningless crack about head teachers yesterday (3637) which you have since failed to explain hence the retaliatory comment about bean counters, although I accept that I should know better with you by now.

    Maybe we should just tax the rich - hardly a clarion call is it AF? Clue is in the word maybe.

    So, no answers then. No suggestions to improve the situation. The well off do not want to contribute to the well being of society as a whole and that, it appears, is all well and good with you. Surprised you don?t both change your names to Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    ............So, no answers then. No suggestions to improve the situation. The well off do not want to contribute to the well being of society as a whole and that, it appears, is all well and good with you. Surprised you don?t both change your names to Jack.
    Did you read my post 3647 or was your head too far up your arse with name calling :-) ?

    This explains quite clearly, I thought, as to why the situation is insoluble, but maybe you dont accept that: your choice, but dont have a go at me for not finding a solution you think must exist when I don't think there is one.

    I reiterate - whoever you tax, there is a negative impact on the least well off who end up carrying a bigger share of the can than is appropriate. MA's point about the trickle down tax multiplier is well made, but this tends to apply more to tax cuts than tax increases. Im not 100% convinced increasing tax on the well to do has a similar multiplier effect. The multiplier efficiency depends on how the ultimate consumer spends extra wealth (or even dont spend but save) and on what, especially if its on imports or overseas holidays etc such that the incremental income exits the domestic system.

    Anyway, you dont need my solution, youve already decided to force people to be socially aware via their wallets. Good luck with that and be careful of what you wish for and the consequences

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Did you read my post 3647 or was your head too far up your arse with name calling :-) ?

    This explains quite clearly, I thought, as to why the situation is insoluble, but maybe you dont accept that: your choice, but dont have a go at me for not finding a solution you think must exist when I don't think there is one.

    I reiterate - whoever you tax, there is a negative impact on the least well off who end up carrying a bigger share of the can than is appropriate. MA's point about the trickle down tax multiplier is well made, but this tends to apply more to tax cuts than tax increases. Im not 100% convinced increasing tax on the well to do has a similar multiplier effect. The multiplier efficiency depends on how the ultimate consumer spends extra wealth (or even dont spend but save) and on what, especially if its on imports or overseas holidays etc such that the incremental income exits the domestic system.

    Anyway, you dont need my solution, youve already decided to force people to be socially aware via their wallets. Good luck with that and be careful of what you wish for and the consequences
    Hmmm, lovely turn of phrase.
    Name calling? Lol. Given some of your recent comments about Liverpool supporters and sinking boats I hardly think a line about your complacent attitude being worthy of the name Jack really compares, do you?
    You are always happy to dish it out, GP. Take any opportunity to make some derisory comment about my former career as a teacher, but when you get a bit back it seems to be toys out of the pram time.

    Good job Aneurin Bevan had a better attitude than you to an insoluble problem in the forties and whatever happened to we are all in this together? Seems to have been an attitude that died with the end of the pandemic, if it ever really existed of course.

    Whether you like it or not we are faced with a major societal problem GP. I thought your economic insight might provide some useful thoughts. Apparently not. Swale has provided one answer and I have to admit I cannot really see past it. We do need a solution but when people such as yourself won’t see further than the problem being insoluable because the genuinely rich might not like it or will just pass it on further down the line I do despair.

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