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    I firmly believe that selling Palmer cost us a play off place. He was one of, if not the best, in the division. It looks like we could be doing the same with Heggem. If we want to build for the future we need to keep our best players, not sell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    I firmly believe that selling Palmer cost us a play off place. He was one of, if not the best, in the division. It looks like we could be doing the same with Heggem. If we want to build for the future we need to keep our best players, not sell them.
    That will only happen once were a going concern financially. We need money. When we dont we can choose to keep players. Thats how I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boingy View Post
    I’m not impressed with either of our options tbf. I prefer an older street wise (field wise) keeper. It’s one position you can’t mess around with.

    I agree! To the credit of Carlos the keeper and defence were solid but now it?s a weakness. I know you like Furlong but got to say under CC he was fairly solid but since he left he?s not been the same player. Why?

    Griffiths will make those in front of him nervous too! Goes back to what I said - I could understand selling Palmer for financial reasons but not when Heggbo a gamble has cost us pretty much equal to what came in for Palmer.

    I know some won?t like this but I would rather we sold Fellows than Heggem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boingy View Post
    That will only happen once were a going concern financially. We need money. When we dont we can choose to keep players. Thats how I see it.

    Selling a class keeper for pretty much the same what was paid for Heggbo to me does not look like a financial need but a purely poor decision. Palmer was class and we have cover in Heggbo?s position and he?s a complete gamble.

    No sense whatsoever and agree with LB - it cost us a play off place

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Selling a class keeper for pretty much the same what was paid for Heggbo to me does not look like a financial need but a purely poor decision. Palmer was class and we have cover in Heggbo?s position and he?s a complete gamble.

    No sense whatsoever and agree with LB - it cost us a play off place
    Selling a homegrown player for pure profit is totally different to buying a player for the same amount. It’s the difference between getting £5m on the books in one go and £5m over 5 seasons.

    Im afraid Lai left us in a position where we have to sell to survive. The new owners have been amazing in being clear on this, changing the scouting strategy and spending the money we receive.

    As for Griffiths, give him time he will be fine.

    Gunn is going to Forest anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    I firmly believe that selling Palmer cost us a play off place. He was one of, if not the best, in the division. It looks like we could be doing the same with Heggem. If we want to build for the future we need to keep our best players, not sell them.
    Pretty much agree with you on both counts!

    If we were in dire financial straits, I could certainly understand selling our better players but whilst hardly flush we are not quite in that situation yet courtesy of Mr Patel.

    I do understand the argument by some around unearthing gems and selling them on at a profit as a short term plan to enable better financial stability which would, in turn, allow us to retain our better players but I have concerns over this. To begin with, there are no guarantees that we will be able to find such gems-whether from domestic lower leagues or from abroad-on a consistent basis to enable this short term aim. Moreover, if we did do this, would not the quality of the squad further deteriorate and we would slip down the table making recovery harder still?

    I'd read somewhere that the club had a 3 year plan with the ultimate aim of gaining promotion. Can't see this happening if we sell all our better players. We have found some bargain players in the likes of Fellows, Heggem and Price, all of whom have become fan favourites and all of whom have attracted attention, but IMHO, to cash in on them all would be a big mistake.

    I do, however, appreciate that the sale of such players would both improve our financial situation and fund needed improvements elsewhere in the squad. There must be caveats though-firstly, we should not even countenance selling all 3 as this would drastically weaken the team and secondly, that we do not sell any player whose loss would mean a substantial weakening in that area of the pitch in return for a possible improvement elsewhere. IMHO, this would mean that selling either Heggem or Price would be a mistake akin to our sale of Palmer. As for Fellows, his number of assists prove his worth and I would dearly love to keep him but if we had to sell one of these 3 I agree with Al and go reluctantly for Tom. This is simply because I feel we have existing players who can better cover his loss than we do for the others and because his sale would command more money/profit.

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    Palmer had to go in the previous financial window for PSR (or whatever its called).
    Were now in a new financial window no doubt and hence the purchase of hegbo.
    I'm sure in a recent interview the owner (or some other big fish in the club) said we were still not out of the woods so it seems inevitable we need to sell at least one valuable player so whoever brings in the largest profit will be the one to go.

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    Palmer was nearly 28 when established him self in our Ist team .
    If any seen him concede 5 against arsenal , you have doubted him and look how he turned out .
    It doesn't like we are going to sign another goalkeeper ,so let's get behind him and give him a fair chance .

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman101 View Post
    Palmer was nearly 28 when established him self in our Ist team .
    If any seen him concede 5 against arsenal , you have doubted him and look how he turned out .
    It doesn't like we are going to sign another goalkeeper ,so let's get behind him and give him a fair chance .

    Hear what you are saying but Griffiths gave Wolves the goals in the cup tie and let in a good number of soft goals last season no doubt costing us a play off place. The defence look nervous especially Furlong with Griffiths there. How many more chances should he get this season? The majority are not usually wrong and many and shouting out for a good keeper of Palmers standard. Maybe give Griffiths a chance by making him number 2. More blunders at the start of this season could mean very frustrated supporters and action to be taken. It?s not because he?s young or inexperienced - these mistakes are basic! Commanding the box ( crosses ) can be improved as Johnstone was not great but very soft goals? That bounce on Saturday you would expect a pub keeper to have done better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    I agree! To the credit of Carlos the keeper and defence were solid but now it?s a weakness. I know you like Furlong but got to say under CC he was fairly solid but since he left he?s not been the same player. Why?

    Griffiths will make those in front of him nervous too! Goes back to what I said - I could understand selling Palmer for financial reasons but not when Heggbo a gamble has cost us pretty much equal to what came in for Palmer.

    I know some won?t like this but I would rather we sold Fellows than Heggem!
    Furlong was better defensively under Carlos. I think Carlos leaving didnt help things. Furlong needs to get better at tackling if I was manager Id be really working on this because his other stats are amazing. He won 92% of his aerial duels last season. Provided Fellows with practically all of his assists. The other lads are supposed to cover him when he goes forward. Different system again now though but he will still be asked to be a defender, midfielder and forward.

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