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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I see that Nelms is still persisting with Emelda MacLean of About Planning Limited who was present at the second pre application meeting in the Landmark Hotel on 27th September 2022.
    I was not impressed with her knowledge about the new stadium development site at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields.
    My wife and I asked Emelda MacLean two questions about the site which she could not answer.
    Nelms states in his statement that they (Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited) looked at the site where the Eden Project is to be situated but rejected it due to transport issues.
    The council also told them about the site at Camperdown.
    The question I would like John Nelms to answer.
    Did he (Nelms) tell Dundee City Council that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited (DBPHL) were wanting to build a new sports centre similar to the aborted one at Caird Park on the site at Camperdown or the former gas works in Dock Street.
    Alternatively did John Nelms tell Dundee City Council that DBPHL were planning to build a 15,000eater new football stadium, crematorium, hotel, shops and luxury housing on the site at Camperdown or the site of the former gas works in Dock Street
    I am assuming that the Dundee City Council officials in June 2016 thought that DBPHL were only planning to build a new large sports centre at the site of the old gas works in Dock Street or at the former NCR Camperdown playing fields otherwise the Dundee City Council officials would have never suggested these sites.
    Sorry Islay, don't understand the point you are trying to make. What is the difference between a large sports centre and a football stadium? Surely the large sports centre at Caird Park was needing access from a trunk road, so what's the reason why the stadium can't be built using an access road of a different section of the same trunk road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Sorry Islay, don't understand the point you are trying to make. What is the difference between a large sports centre and a football stadium? Surely the large sports centre at Caird Park was needing access from a trunk road, so what's the reason why the stadium can't be built using an access road of a different section of the same trunk road.
    There are not 15,000 people exiting the sports centre at Caird Park at the same time.
    The Campy Nou site would be an ideal site for a large sports centre similar to the one originally planned as the joint venture between Dundee City Council, Dundee FC and Dundee United FC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    There are not 15,000 people exiting the sports centre at Caird Park at the same time.
    The Campy Nou site would be an ideal site for a large sports centre similar to the one originally planned as the joint venture between Dundee City Council, Dundee FC and Dundee United FC.
    Didn't realise you were so highly qualified in town and sports planning that you can make this statement so confidently.

    You're a surprising individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Didn't realise you were so highly qualified in town and sports planning that you can make this statement so confidently.

    You're a surprising individual.
    I has been stated by several long standing Dundee FC supporters that advising Nelms of the availability of the site in the former NCR Camperdown playing fields being available as it had been advertised for sale for five years was the Dundee City Council officials Get out of jail card. The For Sale sign is still standing.
    Perhaps Tim Keyes is trying to sell the site.
    It transpires that Nelms had also been tipped off that the site of the old gas works on Dock Street, Dundee was also available.
    I doubt if the old gas works site in Dock Street was big enough for a 15,000 seater stadium and car parks let alone a new stadium development site.
    However Dock Street in Dundee is not a trunk road so Transport Scotland have no interest in any planning application on the site of the old gas works.

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