Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

Yes stupid vandalism

It seems no-one here wants to have a sensible discussion but you appear to see things from a less blinkered perspective, so here's a question. You mentioned in a post a while back that (some of) your family and friends are feeling increasingly emboldened to be racist (in your judgement) etc in their comments. That suggests you consider them racist. Do you think they have BECOME racist over time, or do you think they have always been racist and the current climate has allowed them to be openly so? No trick question, I'm just interested

‘It seems no-one here wants to have a sensible discussion…’.

I disagree. All the time in the world for a sensible discussion but, imo, you weren’t at all sensible and were out of order to claim initially that a) I’d made others out to be racist. b) I’d treated MA’s response differently from any other. c) Become arrogant and slightly rude when reminded that you hadn’t responded to the reply you asked me to provide.

It works both ways AF and it isn’t at all blinkered to suggest that there are forces at work to make racist attitudes and behaviours more acceptable.

You want sensible? Then how about you provide your honest opinion to a few questions.
1. How was it ever acceptable for someone to assume some sort of heroic status as a result of encouraging arson and murder?
2. Why do you appear to struggle so much with what you consider to be a disproportionate number of Black/Asian presenters? Why does it matter what colour/religion presenters are?
3. Do you agree or not that a large part of Farage and Trump’s (amongst others) agendas is to provide credibility and respectability to racist views?

There’s no trick from me either, but I’ve finished cutting the grass and am also genuinely interested.

[swaledale]

‘It seems no-one here wants to have a sensible discussion…’.

I disagree. All the time in the world for a sensible discussion but, imo, you weren’t at all sensible and were out of order to claim initially that a) I’d made others out to be racist. b) I’d treated MA’s response differently from any other. c) Become arrogant and slightly rude when reminded that you hadn’t responded to the reply you asked me to provide.

It works both ways AF and it isn’t at all blinkered to suggest that there are forces at work to make racist attitudes and behaviours more acceptable.

You want sensible? Then how about you provide your honest opinion to a few questions.
1. How was it ever acceptable for someone to assume some sort of heroic status as a result of encouraging arson and murder?
2. Why do you appear to struggle so much with what you consider to be a disproportionate number of Black/Asian presenters? Why does it matter what colour/religion presenters are?
3. Do you agree or not that a large part of Farage and Trump’s (amongst others) agendas is to provide credibility and respectability to racist views?

There’s no trick from me either, but I’ve finished cutting the grass and am also genuinely interested.

I fear you will wait in vain for a reasoned answer RA, its puzzling, AF claims to be even handed yet so many of his posts contain elements of a xenophobic/racist tinge.


To add another dimension, if its immigration/asylum seekers that rouse these imbeciles (thugs) protesting so much, how come this so called "anger2 is in areas such as Lincolnshire, Es*** etc. where the proportion of immigrants is1% or less?

Anyway I I was in hospital in East London yesterday, 85% of the patients were white, (roughly), whilst around the same approx % of the consultants, Dr's nurses etc. were immigrants or at least had an immigrant background. I was spoken to and treated by a Polish consultant, an Irish Dr, an Asian consultant, a Nigerian nurse, a Malaysian pharmacist and had coffee from a coffee shop being run by two very nice young women of Muslim origin wearing headscarfs. Not once did I think this is odd, just grateful that I was getting treated by friendly, experienced and sympathetic human beings.

[ramAnag]

You want sensible? Then how about you provide your honest opinion to a few questions.
1. How was it ever acceptable for someone to assume some sort of heroic status as a result of encouraging arson and murder?
2. Why do you appear to struggle so much with what you consider to be a disproportionate number of Black/Asian presenters? Why does it matter what colour/religion presenters are?
3. Do you agree or not that a large part of Farage and Trump’s (amongst others) agendas is to provide credibility and respectability to racist views?

Well, I thought I’d asked politely and that the questions are all sensible, but it would seem, despite being virtually ever present over the last few days, that you prefer asking questions to answering them.

[swaledale]

Well, I thought I’d asked politely and that the questions are all sensible, but it would seem, despite being virtually ever present over the last few days, that you prefer asking questions to answering them.

Note how quick he is to provide what he considers to be a clever reply, which instead of proving a point as he claims, merely serves to demonstrate his naivety over these matters!