Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

I quite agree that SOME ?foreign cultures? don?t agree with treating females - and or homo***uals - as equals. However it could easily be argued that such an enlightened, egalitarian approach in Britain is hardly ?traditional?

Only by someone who delights in doing ?his own? down

[ramAnag]

Only by someone who delights in doing ?his own? down

Hmmm. Somewhat offensive and completely incorrect nonsense. You obviously, as usual, have no answer, still I hope you enjoy the match.

[swaledale]

Hmmm. Somewhat offensive and completely incorrect nonsense. You obviously, as usual, have no answer, still I hope you enjoy the match.

Thats what happens when you've been indoctrinated like AF, RA, you spout nonsense when challenged! Its called flooding the zone with ****! Such that its virtually impossible to respond logically and debunk all the crap thats thrown out or in this case posted.

The other tactic which AF is using is of course with me, is to ignore any requests for corroboration, facts, evidence and such like that actually debunk the view put forward obviously on the basis that facts and reality are not welcome in "his world"

[ramAnag]

Thats what happens when you've been indoctrinated like AF, RA, you spout nonsense when challenged! Its called flooding the zone with ****! Such that its virtually impossible to respond logically and debunk all the crap thats thrown out or in this case posted.

The other tactic which AF is using is of course with me, is to ignore any requests for corroboration, facts, evidence and such like that actually debunk the view put forward obviously on the basis that facts and reality are not welcome in "his world"

Oh he does that with me too. In the last 24 hrs I?ve asked him the following, 1) Which part of Derby he means when he says ?that?s what I mean by I want my country back? and 2) What are the particular values he regards as specifically ?British??
Both reasonable questions of someone who introduces those points, but of course there?s been no answer, just a little bit of rudeness including accusing me, ridiculously, of ?doing down my own? (whatever that means) and a bit of an attack on Sith too because he made a valid point which confounded our moderator?s Mayor of London theory.
Factual logic does appear to be disappearing, only to be replaced by nastiness from the man who only yesterday claimed to set such high value on the virtue of politeness.

Close to giving up on the basis that it?s hopeless trying to argue with those who deliberately misquote and misrepresent views they are apparently unable to sensibly and honestly debate over.

[swaledale]

Oh he does that with me too. In the last 24 hrs I?ve asked him the following, 1) Which part of Derby he means when he says ?that?s what I mean by I want my country back? and 2) What are the particular values he regards as specifically ?British??
Both reasonable questions of someone who introduces those points, but of course there?s been no answer, just a little bit of rudeness including accusing me, ridiculously, of ?doing down my own? (whatever that means) and a bit of an attack on Sith too because he made a valid point which confounded our moderator?s Mayor of London theory.
Factual logic does appear to be disappearing, only to be replaced by nastiness from the man who only yesterday claimed to set such high value on the virtue of politeness.

Close to giving up on the basis that it?s hopeless trying to argue with those who deliberately misquote and misrepresent views they are apparently unable to sensibly and honestly debate over.

On the other hand we do need to quote a poster on here, to ensure that not only "blinkered" views are posted on here!!

[swaledale]

Only by someone who delights in doing ?his own? down

So thinking that s@xism, homophobia, racism, Xenophobia, misogyny do not represent British values is doing the country down?

I guess joining a march organised by amongst others a known far right and convicted criminal activist, financed by shadowy billionaire who has been shown to be pushing a pro Israel narrative (whilst financing fascists!!) and platforming people with extreme right wing views from France, New Zealand pus of course allowing Musk, to call for a democratically elected government to be overthrown violently if necessary is just "uniting the country"?

It is possible, if one is a vaguely sentient being, to criticise certain aspects of Uk life, without necessarily doing one's own country down.