Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

Only by someone who delights in doing ?his own? down

So thinking that s@xism, homophobia, racism, Xenophobia, misogyny do not represent British values is doing the country down?

I guess joining a march organised by amongst others a known far right and convicted criminal activist, financed by shadowy billionaire who has been shown to be pushing a pro Israel narrative (whilst financing fascists!!) and platforming people with extreme right wing views from France, New Zealand pus of course allowing Musk, to call for a democratically elected government to be overthrown violently if necessary is just "uniting the country"?

It is possible, if one is a vaguely sentient being, to criticise certain aspects of Uk life, without necessarily doing one's own country down.

[swaledale]

Interesting to read that a member of a group that's been erecting flags in Manchester and was a leader in last Saturdays march in London was convicted in 2016

In 2016, Twamley was stopped at the border. In the back of his Ford Connect van were four Vietnamese people he was attempting to smuggle into the country. He was later convicted for being part of a five-person illegal immigration operation and sentenced to 20 months in prison. At the time, Ben Thomas, of Immigration Enforcement’s crime team for the North West, said: “This shameless gang plotted to bring desperate people into the UK illegally purely for their own financial gain.”


So some of these "patriots" not only have convictions or cautions for domestic violence against women, but also convictions for smuggling migrants into the country illegally!

[swaledale]

Hmmm. Somewhat offensive and completely incorrect nonsense. You obviously, as usual, have no answer, still I hope you enjoy the match.

Thats what happens when you've been indoctrinated like AF, RA, you spout nonsense when challenged! Its called flooding the zone with ****! Such that its virtually impossible to respond logically and debunk all the crap thats thrown out or in this case posted.

The other tactic which AF is using is of course with me, is to ignore any requests for corroboration, facts, evidence and such like that actually debunk the view put forward obviously on the basis that facts and reality are not welcome in "his world"

[ramAnag]

Thats what happens when you've been indoctrinated like AF, RA, you spout nonsense when challenged! Its called flooding the zone with ****! Such that its virtually impossible to respond logically and debunk all the crap thats thrown out or in this case posted.

The other tactic which AF is using is of course with me, is to ignore any requests for corroboration, facts, evidence and such like that actually debunk the view put forward obviously on the basis that facts and reality are not welcome in "his world"

Oh he does that with me too. In the last 24 hrs I?ve asked him the following, 1) Which part of Derby he means when he says ?that?s what I mean by I want my country back? and 2) What are the particular values he regards as specifically ?British??
Both reasonable questions of someone who introduces those points, but of course there?s been no answer, just a little bit of rudeness including accusing me, ridiculously, of ?doing down my own? (whatever that means) and a bit of an attack on Sith too because he made a valid point which confounded our moderator?s Mayor of London theory.
Factual logic does appear to be disappearing, only to be replaced by nastiness from the man who only yesterday claimed to set such high value on the virtue of politeness.

Close to giving up on the basis that it?s hopeless trying to argue with those who deliberately misquote and misrepresent views they are apparently unable to sensibly and honestly debate over.

[SithHappens]

So after spending the past few weeks claiming he stopped the war between albania and azerbaijan, trump is now claiming he stopped the war between Armenia and Cambodia.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think he meant Azerbaijan as both have an A in them. He must have been successful as the Grand Prix went ahead today without warlike intervention. Thanks to the Donald

[SithHappens]

Alfreton and Arnold maybe

[MadAmster]

Also claimed to have stopped the India/Pakistan war. Both countries have said "oh no you didn't".

Hardly surprising when you remember that, about 10 years ago, the FFF introduced the term "alternative facts" to the world. A total misnomer, of course, as they weren't facts. Just a collection of words that fit his narrative. Many view his alt facts to, actually, be lies.

[Geoff Parkstone]

That's where Swale got the notion from, I did wonder

[SithHappens]

I'm starting to think whoever is sending Trump out to make these speeches is pissing themselves laughing.

Maybe they put bets on to see who get can him to talk the most *******s.