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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I don't think you mean that, maybe you mean 40% of those arrested, your wording would mean tens of thousands had 'had contact'

    Happy to accept I'm wrong or accept a correction from you, or delete the post
    Indeed well spotted, I omitted the word arrested!

    Not sure it would mean tens of thousands had contact, given there weren't tens of thousands rioting unless of course you can provide the evidence of the actual figures that shows your statement to be true. No doubt you will acknowledge that as I have acknowledged my error?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    Indeed well spotted, I omitted the word arrested!

    Not sure it would mean tens of thousands had contact, given there weren't tens of thousands rioting unless of course you can provide the evidence of the actual figures that shows your statement to be true. No doubt you will acknowledge that as I have acknowledged my error?
    Extrapolation of the few official estimates given ('hundreds' to 'in the thousands' X number of locations X number of protests (some locations had more than one protest). My number may be overegged a bit by fact that a lot of the reporting was about 'riots' not protests but it'll do. Strange that the protests themselves are so lacking in numbers but most counterprotests have them, but thats another story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Extrapolation of the few official estimates given ('hundreds' to 'in the thousands' X number of locations X number of protests (some locations had more than one protest). My number may be overegged a bit by fact that a lot of the reporting was about 'riots' not protests but it'll do. Strange that the protests themselves are so lacking in numbers but most counterprotests have them, but thats another story

    For some one who is so pedantic about numbers quoted and often criticises others and especially me on my figures, saying that "thousands" is the equivalent to "tens of thousands" makes me think its only if a figure quoted against what you believe that you object to.

    Now in my world, and I'm sure most others, a few thousand whether that be 2,000 or indeed up to 9,000 does not equate to "tens of thousands" which is what you stated. So no even if you include protests, your number isn't overegged a bit, its a gross exaggeration!

    As my previous reasonable and polite response to your original post, pointed out, social media is not exactly a source that can be relied upon for accurate facts and figures.

    Its disappointing that you choose to defend an inaccurate and unverifiable statement rather than acknowledge it as an exaggeration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    For some one who is so pedantic about numbers quoted and often criticises others and especially me on my figures, saying that "thousands" is the equivalent to "tens of thousands" makes me think its only if a figure quoted against what you believe that you object to.

    Now in my world, and I'm sure most others, a few thousand whether that be 2,000 or indeed up to 9,000 does not equate to "tens of thousands" which is what you stated. So no even if you include protests, your number isn't overegged a bit, its a gross exaggeration!

    As my previous reasonable and polite response to your original post, pointed out, social media is not exactly a source that can be relied upon for accurate facts and figures.

    Its disappointing that you choose to defend an inaccurate and unverifiable statement rather than acknowledge it as an exaggeration.
    I can easily make the numbers work Swale but I’m not going to offer them here because I’ve told you to do your own research which you haven’t, you’re just sore at being proven wrong on a matter of fact

    I’m fully expecting further retort from elsewhere on the forum but it’s become too predictable to bother about now, as Mac said, there’s grass to cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I can easily make the numbers work Swale but I’m not going to offer them here because I’ve told you to do your own research which you haven’t, you’re just sore at being proven wrong on a matter of fact

    I’m fully expecting further retort from elsewhere on the forum but it’s become too predictable to bother about now, as Mac said, there’s grass to cut
    Ah, "owned" again! Funny how your so pedantic about my figures, but when queried on yours, you fail to verify, even though it would have taken you less time to simply do that than to offer your lame excuse for not doing so.

    I've done my research, your tens of thousands claim was gross exaggeration, end of story.

    Having been, once again shown to be posting inaccurate claims, maybe you will take my advice and understand that what's on social media and facebook isn't a reliable indicator of what's going on in reality.

    I only have a token presence on facebook, to enable me to access it, but it is clear to me that it and other social media is awash with deluded people posting stuff that is obviously not true.

    The fact that on so many occasions you back up your spurious claims by what you've seen on FB, suggests to me that your going down the same rabbit hole as our other deluded poster. Ah well, I guess you like your own echo chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I can easily make the numbers work Swale but I’m not going to offer them here because I’ve told you to do your own research which you haven’t, you’re just sore at being proven wrong on a matter of fact

    I’m fully expecting further retort from elsewhere on the forum but it’s become too predictable to bother about now, as Mac said, there’s grass to cut

    I really do worry about you! How can I be sore about being proven wrong on a matter of fact, when you haven't actually proven anything?

    Also for somebody who "can't be bothered" with pointless debate, you seem to be quite willing to waste your time with childish remarks, when all I've done is politely asked you to verify your claims. or correct your false statement. After all it would have been much simpler and indeed quicker to either admit your figures were a finger in the air estimate or back up that statement.

    I guess it wasn't you who admitted to "overegging" the figures but not by much? Yet obviously are unable to substantiate your previous claims of "tens of thousands". Still I guess if that's what's been said in your fakebook bubble, it must be true!

    By the way, having looked into this in quite some depth, there is absolutely no evidence that "tens of thousands" were involved in the riots/protests last summer!

    I do recall that you were supposed to be quite good with numbers, it seems this little exchange has shown, that your not, nor it seems able to back up statements you make in your posts. Of course the latter has been obvious for quite some time, but now its clear you talk utter tosh.

    Anyway toodle pip old man, I'm off to talk to someone who knows fact from fiction.

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