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[MrsORichSenior_]

Probably best to agree to disagree as a lot of the points being made are not really very specific to what I am saying or are not things I disagree with but seem to suggest I am.

If he keeps us up great and he is a relative genius but in comparison to most of the coaches in the PL he doesn?t necessarily compare that well on many fronts.

The best managers tend to be less binary in approach.

which coaches..... at which clubs.... and what revenue streams do they work from and how long have their clubs been actually established in PL..... as a matter of interest....... would be my final counter offer for middle ground.......regarding Farke after only a handful of games.

MOT

[ozleeds]

which coaches..... at which clubs.... and what revenue streams do they work from and how long have their clubs been actually established in PL..... as a matter of interest....... would be my final counter offer for middle ground.......regarding Farke after only a handful of games.

MOT

Hold on, he's been there 3 years and took a club arguably the best championship squad into not getting promotion, then next season he did it with the best squad in probably the worst ever championship. His record at top division clubs is nothing short of crap. His dissensions on the game day squad and talk are not what he preaches, and he tends to do it one way, and we all know how it will end up. Full of excuses to cover his mistakes. The Premier League is unforgiving and we all know how corrupt it is, so if you don't have someone special, you don't survive, just ask all the outgoing managers every year and they are miles better than Mr. Farke. I respect your views and others, but what Hope is saying is 100% right in my eyes, and nothing will change it.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

which coaches..... at which clubs.... and what revenue streams do they work from and how long have their clubs been actually established in PL..... as a matter of interest....... would be my final counter offer for middle ground.......regarding Farke after only a handful of games.

MOT

Pretty much every other team and coach in the PL. I have looked at the stats for about 12 clubs ranging for Arsenal, Liverpool and City at one end to Burnley and Spam at the other and Sunderland, Fulham and Bournemouth in between.

What is fairly consistent is that those clubs make at least 4 subs each game and a lot more typically 5 and they make the subs at lot earlier.

Some at half time to change the game but often around the 60th minute.

Arsenal and city often make half time subs (and more than one).

We consistently make fewer and later subs than other teams. A lot of our subs are in the from the 78th minutes or between 80 and 90 minutes.

The game has deeper benches with up to 5 subs.

We don’t use it for impact and we don’t use it to rotate enough - most of those other clubs do.

Farke’s record is fairly mediocre and Leeds had the best squad in each of the last two seasons - last year by a mile so he was expected to get us up.

Increasingly, he talks about his own exploits as a striker as if he understands DCL etc. His record was decent but he was playing a lot in regional (which no longer exist) not national football so equivalent to L2 here at best but more likely the national league division 2.

When he speaks he often talks about himself which comes across to me as insure or narcissistic.

He is a decent coach and has found a niche in the leagues below the top league. It seems in the top league his flaws get exposed.

As I have said elsewhere, I’ve been fairly impressed with what he has done so far but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t got a lot of improving to do.

If you are a young player you don’t sign for Leeds to break through - he has said publicly several times he likes youngsters on the bench but not on the pitch. A lot of talented 16 and 17 year olds left this summer including some to spurs. I don’t think any of that is a co-incidence.

The game has moved on and I’m not sure he has caught up. The way he speaks to and treats some players I really really don’t like.