Labour Conference

[Albionic68]

That might be true but inertia , disenchantment will reduce the turn out so it will be up to the electorate to get out and vote

Agreed. Disenchantment and inertia are intrinsically linked. They feed off and take nourishment from each other. If you're disenchanted with the political flow voice that disenchantment at the ballot box.

I always do. I'm still disenchanted but still bother with the hassle of pencilling my mark either on the way out for the day or on my way home. You just never know when the right to do so could be taken away.

[baggiematt]

Im still skeptical that Reform will get in. It is 3 and a half years away and they are actually quite a crooked party.

Theyre a business, ran by businessmen with policies that benefit businessmen.

I also think there is a lot more to play out about Farage, his relationship with America and his desire to privatise the NHS. I dont see them as viable when you open the bonnet and have a good look at them.

I have a feeling Starmer wont be in power by the run up for the next election and maybe neither will Badenoch.

A lot to play out.

[kettering_baggie]

Then spoil it - make the effort to vote and make your rejection of them all known.

They have to declare the spoilt votes and if there were enough then their mandate would be compromised .

And if that doesn't convince you to vote - take a look at your local war memorial- their scacrifice might

Actually, I always vote, even in the local elections but I respect the right of people not to, if they so wish, it is a free country (ish)!

I do not, though, appreciate your suggestion that I go and take a look at my local war memorial. I fully understand what those memorials represent, I stand by one at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

[bordering]

Actually, I always vote, even in the local elections but I respect the right of people not to, if they so wish, it is a free country (ish)!

I do not, though, appreciate your suggestion that I go and take a look at my local war memorial. I fully understand what those memorials represent, I stand by one at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

Jeez how old are you? taking umbrage at that remark- you'll be sending the boys in blue round coz you are offended. I am glad that you vote I am glad that you remember - happy now?

[kettering_baggie]

Jeez how old are you? taking umbrage at that remark- you'll be sending the boys in blue round coz you are offended. I am glad that you vote I am glad that you remember - happy now?

Hm, not unknown for people to make snide remarks on this site, is it? Don’t worry, though, I won’t be losing any sleep over it. Peace and love!

[bordering]

Hm, not unknown for people to make snide remarks on this site, is it? Don?t worry, though, I won?t be losing any sleep over it. Peace and love!

and to you

[WBA123]

What a complete bunch of clowns 🤡

Starmer and the girl from Accounts hugging and clapping like they have won the World Cup!

The Girl from Accounts acknowledges household bills are high in her Stacy Sullivan voice but then she?s going to whack everybody in the November budget. More voters leaving them!

Meanwhile Starmer is animated by the digital ID card and his one out - one thousand in approach then waits for it - they all call Reform racist and disrupting the British way of life,

You can?t make it up. Rather than use unsavoury language to an opponent
( Reform ) why not get to the bottom of why voters are leaving the party in their droves. In fairness to Mahmood - she did acknowledge many of the protesters in London weren?t racist but just completely fed up and she got it!

Laugh a minute this party!

I don't rate Labour, but the truth is where is the alternative?

Farage's mob, are promising tax cuts for everyone whilst spending £150bn on public services....Their manifesto will make Corbyn's look financially stable.
Conservatives have had 15 years in power and look what they did there. They're just trying to win points off Farage.
Greens would be a joke when it comes to foreign policy and Lib Dems don't know who a bloke and a woman are.

Labour are probably the best of the bad bunch. Because who else is there to vote for....the country doesn't just need change. It needs new mainstream parties to replace this lot.

[Albionic68]

I don't rate Labour, but the truth is where is the alternative? ........

Labour are probably the best of the bad bunch. Because who else is there to vote for........

I've never given serious consideration to spoiling a ballot paper before but I have to admit you've just made a compelling argument there chap 😉.

[kettering_baggie]

There’s usually an independent on the ballot paper; often a local independent will be more in tune with the needs of an area than someone who blindly follows a party line. Vote for your local independent.

[WBA123]

There’s usually an independent on the ballot paper; often a local independent will be more in tune with the needs of an area than someone who blindly follows a party line. Vote for your local independent.

That's okay for local needs. But won't help much for national or international policies.

A good centrist party, with a focus on the EU and smart economic policies, would clear up at the next election in my opinion.