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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    We do have to be careful Al, we are growing into a society that shows less tolerance on crimes committed by ‘our own’. By our own, I mean white people.

    Where were the riots after the Letby murders came out?

    Rupert The Racist Lowe couldnt really argue back on a debate when it was announced that there are more grooming crimes on average by white people than migrants.

    The media report on crimes more prevalent when non white people are the perpetrators.
    Totally agree Matt on this. I would hate this country to go back to where it was decades ago.

    There is clearly a problem, not only here but also in other countries. Humans are human and we should all be as one, no matter what colour our skin is. The awful thing is those that do not accept those that are not like them. And that goes in both or many ways, depending on one?s view.

    There is evil in all colours. But there is more good in all colours. Much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    We do have to be careful Al, we are growing into a society that shows less tolerance on crimes committed by ‘our own’. By our own, I mean white people.

    Where were the riots after the Letby murders came out?

    Rupert The Racist Lowe couldnt really argue back on a debate when it was announced that there are more grooming crimes on average by white people than migrants.

    The media report on crimes more prevalent when non white people are the perpetrators.

    Everyone?s views should be respected. Trump easily won in the USA because the majority wanted him within that country. Whoever wins the next election in the U.K. will be decided by the majority so again this should be respected.

    Same with football it?s usually the majority who decide the fate of the manager so the chairman or owner needs to react.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Careful yes of course Matt but in Rishi?s words
    words too much cultural sensitivity and political correctness around. For me this is more from white lefties causing this.

    If Zia Yusuf or Patel say stop the boats then strangely enough they are not racist but if Lowe or Jenrik say the same thing they are racist or far right. You can?t make it up 😂😂

    I agree though in many things like benefit cheats etc look no further than the whites. The least problematic in this country are our Jewish communities who are constantly threatened.
    I dont know much about Jenrick, but Lowe is a raging racist. It’s not just immigration for him, it’s anything he doesn’t like about Pakistanis. He is almost open about it.

    He is laser focussed on Muslims and nothing else comes out of his mouth. He wont condemn any white wrongdoings but goes heavy on anything from non natives.

    A billionaire who tells us how to think. Id take any sort of person over that type of person.

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    You dont have to respect views if they dont match your values.

    There was once a little bloke with an odd mustache who was voted to lead in Germany and the majority of the country followed him into atrocities. I dont respect him, Trump or the plonkers that follow them.

    On Trump, how can you respect a bloke that brings world leaders onto national tv where they are humiliated by him and his cronies. They bullied Zelenskyy (and others) and I dont respect people who follow bullies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    You dont have to respect views if they dont match your values.

    There was once a little bloke with an odd mustache who was voted to lead in Germany and the majority of the country followed him into atrocities. I dont respect him, Trump or the plonkers that follow them.

    On Trump, how can you respect a bloke that brings world leaders onto national tv where they are humiliated by him and his cronies. They bullied Zelenskyy (and others) and I dont respect people who follow bullies.
    Sadly, Trump loves himself. What he did to President Zelenskyy was/is absolutely unforgivable.

    Trump is a narcissist. We will not visit the USA until he is gone. Not that that will make much of a difference in all honesty.

    I think many Americans are realising what he is rather than what he portrayed himself as being.

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    It is now confirmed there was only one attacker, the second was a case of mistaken identity. The one arrested attacker is British born. Mental health history is being looked into. Not suspected of being a terrorism related incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    You dont have to respect views if they dont match your values.

    There was once a little bloke with an odd mustache who was voted to lead in Germany and the majority of the country followed him into atrocities. I dont respect him, Trump or the plonkers that follow them.

    On Trump, how can you respect a bloke that brings world leaders onto national tv where they are humiliated by him and his cronies. They bullied Zelenskyy (and others) and I dont respect people who follow bullies.

    I can?t really have a view on external leaders when our own leader is an embarrassment and Corbyn who many supported is one dangerous individual.

    Pleased those Nottingham Forest supporters on the train helped those poor people. Hero?s all those who helped and superb it?s been recognised by their official web site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    It appears that the two men arrested were, one black British National and the other a British National of Afro-Caribbean heritage. Why was this not disclosed straight away? It was stated because they did not want misinformation circulating on social media. Surely by not stating who they were then there was a much greater possibility of false information circulating! Does not make any sense to me.
    Didn't you used to be a teacher? Jeez....I feel very sorry for your students.

    Why do you think they don't release details? Genuine question.... Do you think if there's a stabbing, and they come out immediately and say its a Muslim of Asian ethnicity its going to help the situation and stop riots etc.

    How about this one, do you think if the police came out and told you all the information about a suspect that could prejudice a future trial? In this train situation, one of the suspects has been released and sounds like he was maybe arrested in error.

    We have due process in this country. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Investigations need to happen and evidence needs to be compiled.

    Seriously, use your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Didn't you used to be a teacher? Jeez....I feel very sorry for your students.

    Why do you think they don't release details? Genuine question.... Do you think if there's a stabbing, and they come out immediately and say its a Muslim of Asian ethnicity its going to help the situation and stop riots etc.

    How about this one, do you think if the police came out and told you all the information about a suspect that could prejudice a future trial? In this train situation, one of the suspects has been released and sounds like he was maybe arrested in error.

    We have due process in this country. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Investigations need to happen and evidence needs to be compiled.

    Seriously, use your head.
    You?re wrong 123 as discussed this with a cop and he said it depends on whether it?s in the public?s interest. For example the police had to release that a migrant from the hotel in Epping has s exually assaulted a little school girl. It was in the public?s interests to know as the school route went past that hotel. Many parents could then decide on lifts/other routes or to be accompanied by an adult. The police are now getting slaughtered as they did not release the ethnicity of the grooming gangs and even Rishi said it was wrong!

    Sometimes though it?s not in the publics best interests because it could prejudice a trial!

    Don?t think LB deserved that attack regardless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Didn't you used to be a teacher? Jeez....I feel very sorry for your students.

    Why do you think they don't release details? Genuine question.... Do you think if there's a stabbing, and they come out immediately and say its a Muslim of Asian ethnicity its going to help the situation and stop riots etc.

    How about this one, do you think if the police came out and told you all the information about a suspect that could prejudice a future trial? In this train situation, one of the suspects has been released and sounds like he was maybe arrested in error.

    We have due process in this country. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Investigations need to happen and evidence needs to be compiled.

    Seriously, use your head.
    Just the opposite! By disclosing that it was a British National and not an illegal immigrant, Muslim or whatever it avoided the misinformation that could have been posted on social media which in turn could have caused unnecessary trouble. As Al stated, depends on the situation.

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