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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    I don’t know if I’m one of those two, GP, but no, like you I won’t, not least because I won’t be at home on Christmas Day, well not for the majority of it anyway and not for Christmas Dinner.
    I’m not sure I quite follow your logic about being in favour of social equality and diversity equating to inviting people into my home, but we will be contributing relatively generously to Crisis at Christmas which you may, rightly or wrongly, regard as a bit of a cop out, but which probably achieves at least as much.
    It's similar to my wondering some time back as to how many pro Palestinian supporters would head to Gaza to aid in the rebuilding / distribution of food etc now that a form of uneasy peace exists. Very happy to talk the talk, far less willing to walk the walk. Same with giving aid to asylum seekers - talk the talk as long as it's state funds being given away, not their own. (Depending on their tax status of course).

    Basically it's a society that shout a lot but do **** all about the issues they love to shout about. AKA hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    It's similar to my wondering some time back as to how many pro Palestinian supporters would head to Gaza to aid in the rebuilding / distribution of food etc now that a form of uneasy peace exists. Very happy to talk the talk, far less willing to walk the walk. Same with giving aid to asylum seekers - talk the talk as long as it's state funds being given away, not their own. (Depending on their tax status of course).

    Basically it's a society that shout a lot but do **** all about the issues they love to shout about. AKA hypocrites.
    Hypocrites? Not really. The vast majority of us are tax payers and therefore have every right to voice an opinion on how state money should be spent. Likewise it would be hopelessly impractical for the majority who are pro Palestine to suddenly start rebuilding Gaza and handing out food parcels.
    I acted in support of Mandela in the seventies but have never set foot in South Africa. Likewise I am opposed to all forms of racism and support gay/womens’ rights but I’m white, male and straight. Does that make me a hypocrite? I don’ think so, I’m just in favour of a fairer, more egalitarian society and opposed to all forms of bullying. All credit to those who house or feed the homeless at Christmas, and indeed throughout the year, but there are many other ways to help.
    Don’t think you have a point.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 06-11-2025 at 02:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    It's similar to my wondering some time back as to how many pro Palestinian supporters would head to Gaza to aid in the rebuilding / distribution of food etc now that a form of uneasy peace exists. Very happy to talk the talk, far less willing to walk the walk. Same with giving aid to asylum seekers - talk the talk as long as it's state funds being given away, not their own. (Depending on their tax status of course).

    Basically it's a society that shout a lot but do **** all about the issues they love to shout about. AKA hypocrites.
    And your evidence for this is?

    I take it your inferring that those on protests, which after all is taking some action, don't do anything other than protest?

    I know for a fact that some do, contributing, donations of clothes, or money to aid the Palestinians. I also know, as you would with some basic research that there a number of charities that do provide practical support to Asylum seekers and many people who do "pro bono" work on their behalf.

    As for actually heading into Gaza, well given recent experiences, it rather depends upon who the Israeli government allows to enter doesn't it?

    Of course there have been aid boats attempting to get there, Greta Thunberg was on one, but I'm sure I remember you taking the piss out of her efforts?

    It seems you want it both ways, but suspect your just being a grumpy old sod for the sake of it.

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