Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

Ironically many of those protesting against Islam will go down the curry house after the pub on a Friday.

It's estimated between 87% and 90% of UK curry houses are Bangladeshi run. Islam is the largest ideology/religion being followed by around 90% of Bangladeshis. 8% are Hindu.

The other 10% to 13% are Indian run. 80% of Indians are Hindu and 14% follow Islam.

Whatever the origin of the owners and staff, as long as I get a good meal, staff are friendly and they also serve alcohol, I'm quite happy. They're providing a service I wish to use. The way it should be.

[SithHappens]

Interesting Farage is being vocal around the BBC when it appears he is breaking ofcom rules himself

https://x.com/Ofcom/status/1987557600951488992

[ramAnag]

Interesting Farage is being vocal around the BBC when it appears he is breaking ofcom rules himself

https://x.com/Ofcom/status/1987557600951488992

Honestly Sith, never forget Farage’s ‘Breaking Point’ poster during the Brexit campaign, and for Trump and Katherine Leavitt to start describing the BBC as a ‘propaganda machine’ and a source of ‘100% fake news’ is laughable.

My guess? Trump will be going for compensation next.

[SithHappens]

Honestly Sith, never forget Farage?s ?Breaking Point? poster during the Brexit campaign, and for Trump and Katherine Leavitt to start describing the BBC as a ?propaganda machine? and a source of ?100% fake news? is laughable.

My guess? Trump will be going for compensation next.

He might well do.

The BBC are in the wrong of course they are, but he did incite violence in the Capitol, just not in as few words as they made out.

Bit like a rapist complaining about news report which said he'd raped 100 women when it was actually 99.

[ramAnag]

He might well do.

The BBC are in the wrong of course they are, but he did incite violence in the Capitol, just not in as few words as they made out.

Bit like a rapist complaining about news report which said he'd raped 100 women when it was actually 99.

Although, seeing as he’s claimed the BBC to be ‘100% fake news’ - which it clearly isn’t, even in this instance - I suspect he’s provided sound grounds for a counter claim.

[Andy_Faber]

I thought at post 4840 there might be a chink of light regarding a serious conversation on today's hot topic, but I see the temptation to talk about Trump (and Farage) was just too much. At least it hasn't spread to the Matchday thread

[ramAnag]

I thought at post 4840 there might be a chink of light regarding a serious conversation on today's hot topic, but I see the temptation to talk about Trump (and Farage) was just too much. At least it hasn't spread to the Matchday thread

What an odd comment. You raised the topic and asked for discussion.
You’ve got your discussion and the story has developed so that now we have Trump and his entourage, along with Farage, Johnson and assorted others all piling in, but apparently you don’t like discussing that bit.

So far you’ve had GP playfully guessing what I’d have to say and both Sith and I agreeing that the BBC have messed up, but querying the notion of Trump and Farage holding any high moral ground where truth, fake news and propaganda are concerned.

What on earth is wrong with that, or do you just want to determine what can be said? Sorry to disappoint.

[Andy_Faber]

What an odd comment. You raised the topic and asked for discussion.
You?ve got your discussion and the story has developed so that now we have Trump and his entourage, along with Farage, Johnson and assorted others all piling in, but apparently you don?t like discussing that bit.

So far you?ve had GP immediately guessing what I?d have to say and both Sith and I agreeing that the BBC have messed up but querying the notion of Trump and Farage holding any high moral ground where truth, fake news and propaganda are concerned.

What on earth is wrong with that, or do you just want to determine what can be said? Sorry to disappoint.

Nothing wrong I guess, just that you're allowing yourself to be dragged along by the personalities, So what if Trump, Farage, Johnson or whoever else 'pile in', that's incidental to the issue in question, not the issue itself.

You will remember that BBC bias of this nature was something I touched on many years ago after gleaning info during an unguarded conversation with a BBC exec on a train journey home once, (one of those little anecdotes you rubbished as 'made up' incidentally) so I'm not surprised at any of the content of that memo, only that its taken this long to come to light. A number of commentators last night and this morning have pointed to a big problem in BBC being a journalistic/editorial cohort and management cohort being 'out of step' with one another, the former seeing it as a platform for pushing their opinions, the latter being too weak to push back or too inundated to see the often subtle way its being done. Now of course that's me maybe cherry picking to some extent but the journalists are just plods going about their business not any of your list of celebrities

[ramAnag]

Nothing wrong I guess, just that you're allowing yourself to be dragged along by the personalities, So what if Trump, Farage, Johnson or whoever else 'pile in', that's incidental to the issue in question, not the issue itself.

You will remember that BBC bias of this nature was something I touched on many years ago after gleaning info during an unguarded conversation with a BBC exec on a train journey home once, (one of those little anecdotes you rubbished as 'made up' incidentally) so I'm not surprised at any of the content of that memo, only that its taken this long to come to light. A number of commentators last night and this morning have pointed to a big problem in BBC being a journalistic/editorial cohort and management cohort being 'out of step' with one another, the former seeing it as a platform for pushing their opinions, the latter being too weak to push back or too inundated to see the often subtle way its being done. Now of course that's me maybe cherry picking to some extent but the journalists are just plods going about their business not any of your list of celebrities

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m not allowing myself to be ‘dragged along’ by anyone. It’s just that the POTUS and the self proclaimed leader if the UK opposition rather transcend the term…’celebrity’, imo.

As for your anecdote, I’m sorry, not entirely surprisingly, I don't remember a conversation you had many years ago on a train journey home. Neither have I any idea how I responded to it, if indeed I did.

For me there are at least three separate issues here.
1. The BBC haven’t misquoted Trump but they have abbreviated his comments. To what extent is that wrong?
2. If that is wrong, who was responsible, why is it wrong and how misrepresentative is it of what Trump said and what he intended.
3. To what extent is this an example of a Right wing POTUS and his UK sidekicks launching an unprecedented attack on the British media…and why?

[Geoff Parkstone]

Can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m not allowing myself to be ‘dragged along’ by anyone. It’s just that the POTUS and the self proclaimed leader if the UK opposition rather transcend the term…’celebrity’, imo.

As for your anecdote, I’m sorry, not entirely surprisingly, I don't remember a conversation you had many years ago on a train journey home. Neither have I any idea how I responded to it, if indeed I did.

For me there are at least three separate issues here.
1. The BBC haven’t misquoted Trump but they have abbreviated his comments. To what extent is that wrong?
2. If that is wrong, who was responsible, why is it wrong and how misrepresentative is it of what Trump said and what he intended.
3. To what extent is this an example of a Right wing POTUS and his UK sidekicks launching an unprecedented attack on the British media…and why?

I'll keep it simple.(1) Bull****, it's wholly wrong (2)Noone here knows (3) I'd say the BBC started the unprecedented attack by willfully misquoting POTUS