Election Year or Fear!

[Geoff Parkstone]

No idea why you’d say that, but if you ask Google, William Hill or the BBC you’ll get much the same answer and my guess is it’ll be a woman, with Jayne Turton the current favourite.

Happier ‘engaging’ when you talk sense, GP.

Look at our exchange thus far. You’re intent on describing my comments as ‘anti right wing’ but they’re actually about individuals having too much influence over the UK media be they from the Right or the Left.

As it happens, in this instance, the individual concerned, Lord Rothermere, is Right wing. I’ve listed the publications/online sites he exerts enormous influence over and said that I find such a situation unhealthy in any democracy.

The fact is that any media bias in this country is very much in favour of the Right, with only the Guardian and the Mirror providing any sort of print based balance, and yet when the BBC messes up/makes an error the howls of outrage from those on the Right are both vociferous and limitless, including threats from the POTUS on this occasion.

Whereas, in this little microcosm, all we tend to see when it comes to comments on the media, are howls of outrage from yourself and Swale about the terrible actions of the right wing press. Everything seems to be their fault: I swear if you **** your pants on the way home from the pub one night you'd find a way to blame it on the right wing press.

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander

[swaledale]

Whereas, in this little microcosm, all we tend to see when it comes to comments on the media, are howls of outrage from yourself and Swale about the terrible actions of the right wing press. Everything seems to be their fault: I swear if you **** your pants on the way home from the pub one night you'd find a way to blame it on the right wing press.

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander

Oh dear, you seem to make a habit of making inaccurate generalist comments and then nit picking at other peoples points (and fail to acknowledge when your nit picking is incorrect, but I'll let that pass!).


Whether RA or myself have actually "howled in outrage" at the right wing press is open to question, but no doubt you will be able to come up with an example to back up your claim?

Speaking for myself, I've pointed out a few inconsistencies, falsehoods and heavily biased claims made by certain papers, notably the Telegraph which as I proved to you was hardly well placed to criticise the BBC for errors when it does not display the same adherence to accuracy in its own output. As for the Daily Fail, it pours out a mixture of idle and often unreliable gossip alongside a steady stream of false, misleading and often divisive articles and opinion pieces which irrespective of whether one is right or left leaning, you'd be foolish to take seriously.

To take Ra's point, that there are far more right wing media with an agenda, than the equivalent on the left isn't blaming the media for anything, its merely pointing out that the environment is skewed heavily towards a particular political angle, hence why Labour gets a level of attack and scrutiny which goes far beyond the Tory party and t seems the new darling of the right, Farage.

AS just an example, if a former Welsh leader of Labour had been convicted of accepting bribes from Russians what do you think the papers headlines would be and how long do you think that attack would have gone on for? There has been very little and what there has been low key reporting on this other than by the Guardian.

I mean **** me, the right wing media virtually called Ed Miliband a communist because his Father, his ****ing Father, not even a former member of the same party, was a Marxist academic.

It seems to me if you **** your pants and the Daily Mail told you it was your fault you'd nod your head and agree!

[ramAnag]

Whereas, in this little microcosm, all we tend to see when it comes to comments on the media, are howls of outrage from yourself and Swale about the terrible actions of the right wing press. Everything seems to be their fault: I swear if you **** your pants on the way home from the pub one night you'd find a way to blame it on the right wing press.

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander

Well I tried. If you’ve got no answers just admit it. Hoping for an intelligent discussion on such issues as media freedom, ownership and responsibility in a democratic society but today seems to be one of your jibberish days.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Ive yet to see a sensible question to answer. The only barrier to press freedom would be state control, and I dont see any of that. No one makes you listen to or read media content,, so if you dont like the opinions, dont read them. That is free press, you've got a choice of something to read etc that affirms your own views, and merging two voices that you dont want to listen to anyway doesnt lessen your choice

[swaledale]

Whereas, in this little microcosm, all we tend to see when it comes to comments on the media, are howls of outrage from yourself and Swale about the terrible actions of the right wing press. Everything seems to be their fault: I swear if you **** your pants on the way home from the pub one night you'd find a way to blame it on the right wing press.

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander

And here for your delectation is a current example of the insidious nonsense pumped out by right wing media in an attempt to stir up up faux rage.

Articles in the Telegraph (supposedly a series paper), the Daily Fail The Express and repeated on reported on GBeebies, about Tesco supposedly "cancelling Christmas".

The Telegraph article claims Tesco are selling an evergreen tree, with no reference to Christmas in their Christmas range WTF??

The claim was they had called it an Evergreen tree instead of Christmas tree, the turth is its one of a range of luxury trees in their Christmas tree range!! The Telegraph even admits that al the trees in their range have Merry Christmas on the box containing the tree!

Apparently Tesco trusts their customers to know that a plastic Tree in a display box labelled MERRY CHRISTMAS is indeed a Christmas Tree!

The Telegraph, Express, GB News and Daily Mail do not believe their readers are capable of that!

And given the comments sections, they’re not wrong!
GBNews, had a report seemingly gleaned from X accounts making claims that Tesco had "stolen Christmas", slightly awkward when on their website the article sits next to a link which claims Tesco have the best Christmas advert this year!!

The Express made a strange choice in their photos to accompany their version.

They were the photos that actually showed the MERRY CHRISTMAS signage around the boxes!

The Daily Mail of course went for the full on ‘woke’ attack line while claiming that ALL of the Tesco Christmas trees had been renamed “evergreen trees”


We’ve entered the “they’re banning Christmas” season on social media. But its mind boggling that actual newspapers (although perhaps thats being to kind to them) would take the confected outrage by anonymous far-Right social media accounts and turn them into “news” stories!

Its not the political leaning of these media thats a major concern, its the amount of utterly inaccurate and misleading "news" they push out, often purposely to create faux rage and protest.

What's worrying is that people who I would normally consider to be capable of rational thought, including some on here, seem to believe this stuff.