WGS he isn't involved in the decision making at the club but according to Elvis he is involved in the weekly meeting with Nelms and himself.........what's he there for if he ain't involved or influencing decisions?

The latest Elvis interview in the Courier, once you untangle the word salad, strikes me as Strachan being very much involved but zero accountability, Nelms being fairly ambivalent about results and Elvis doing his time as Dundee head coach and suffering it rather than enjoying it.

And again the follow up question on progress isn't asked......you say you see progress can you outline what progress you see?