Election Year or Fear!

[Ram Pant]

IMO, the edited version was a pretty accurate precis of the whole rant.

[ramAnag]

IMO, the edited version was a pretty accurate precis of the whole rant.

Exactly, and he doesn’t have a reputation to damage. Thoroughly nasty and dishonest individual as his comments yesterday only serve to prove.

[SithHappens]

I think Trump should just take a leaf out of his poundland mini me and just start shouting out random TV shows or personalities from the 70s in response to any accusations.

Seems a good deflection method.

Mr trump, would you like to apologise for your disgusting comments yesterday..

Trump: Kojak..Hawaii 5 o, The Bloody Waltons...Battlestar Gallactica..

[Geoff Parkstone]

How can you say this about the 2025 FIFA Man of Peace who has "taken exceptional and extraordinary actions for peace" and "united people across the world".

[swaledale]

use of edits (written word or video) is a nasty tactic of the press whoever does it/whoever its done to. GP editted an innocent post of rA's recently to demonstrate what can be done. My guess is that a judge would look at that individual incident and determine if it alone defamed Trump, but that's just a guess, as with most of the law we happy (and biased) amateurs know **** all about the statute or case law that applies

Whilst I don't disagree that the media can and do edit material to suit their own agenda, I've expereinced BBC East Midlands Today doing just that, it is a fact that most articles, programmes ect. are edited for various legitimate reasons, such as fitting an article on a page or within a programme's "run time" or merely to remove irrelevant waffle from an interview.

Your correct in that we amateurs don't know the detail of case law, I'd object to the accusation of bias, on the basis that dafamation is about damage to reputation, and its a fact that Trump's reputation is hardly unblemished, whatever one may think about him, many of his actions, words and indeed insults are a matter of record.

I've copied part of this precis from a lawyer on this subject below which might make things clearer. INFORRMS BLOG is you want to read all of it. And no thats NOT a typo!!

"However, this by no means ensures that a defamation claim by Trump would succeed. Trump must meet set requirements to prove that the footage was actually defamatory. He would face significant difficulties doing so in both England and the US.

First, Trump’s existing reputation is hardly unblemished, and includes court findings of fraudulent conduct, ***ual assault (subject to ongoing litigation in the US), and impeachment for inciting an insurrection against a democratically-elected government (he was later acquitted).

Furthermore, he won the 2024 US election within a fortnight of the episode’s broadcast. It would therefore be difficult for his lawyers to prove that he suffered reputational harm from this Panorama episode.

Truth defences are also available in both jurisdictions. These protect a defendant whose allegations contain minor inaccuracies, as long as the “sting” of the libel – in this case, that Trump’s speech contributed to the storming of the Capitol – is true."

The other pertinent point here, is that Trump and indeed other wealthy individuals, will instigate legal action of this kind, not becuase they believe they ahve a case, but because they have the resources to do so (and are not bothered by the financial implications of losing) in the expectation that the weaker less wealthy organisations or individuals will settle out of court being unwilling or unable to meet the significant costs of legal action. Justice and truth doesn't come cheap!!

Trump also has a history of using his position and wealth in the US to sue media companies and other busineses who often settle the case, becuase they want US government approval for a merger or acquisition or the granting of a licence to broadcast etc. Truly the tactics of a pseudo mafia boss, bullying an organisation to bden to his will, not becasue he has a point, but becuase his office and wealth mean he can.

[SithHappens]

How can you say this about the 2025 FIFA Man of Peace who has "taken exceptional and extraordinary actions for peace" and "united people across the world".

You misread..FIFA Man of Piss

[SithHappens]

Trump is claiming the BBC did not only edit it, that they used AI to make it appear he says something he didn't.

Obviously this is not true.

Its also filed in Florida where the edit was not broadcast, Trump is claiming people watched it using a VPN but apparently cannot demonstrate how many, if any, people watched it.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/16/media...dia-10-billion

The fact the likes of Reform, Truss, Rupert Lowe are supporting this action is disgusting.

Farage seems to have gone into battle himself with the BBC and appears to be boycotting them until they apologize for legitimate questions about allegations on his past, no doubt to say 'look at me' to trump.

[swaledale]

Trump is claiming the BBC did not only edit it, that they used AI to make it appear he says something he didn't.

Obviously this is not true.

Its also filed in Florida where the edit was not broadcast, Trump is claiming people watched it using a VPN but apparently cannot demonstrate how many, if any, people watched it.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/16/media...dia-10-billion

The fact the likes of Reform, Truss, Rupert Lowe are supporting this action is disgusting.



Farage seems to have gone into battle himself with the BBC and appears to be boycotting them until they apologize for legitimate questions about allegations on his past, no doubt to say 'look at me' to trump.

Which in Farrage's case is so ironic, given the BBC more than any othe rmedia have platofrmed him numerous times, he has been on Question Time at least 38 times, far more than most other people for example, and have constantly repeated the hype about Reform!

As for Truss and Lowe, the less said about those nonentities the better.

[SithHappens]

Ironic really Farage is championing Trumps legal action when his TV station has just been outed for outright lies about Meghan Markles family.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I'd have thought farage had appeared more on GBN?

But given that Farage is the leader of the most popular party / most supported party in the UK at the moment, and a party that has very few spokesmen / faces, its prehaps no surprise that he appears on BBC frequently. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articl...8-7-8-dec-2025 demonstrates popularity.

I also sat the Electroal Reform Society projection that converts this voting intention into seat isn parlaiments if an election was called now - 324 seats, with LibDems second on 88. I dont suppose this reflects tactical voting against Reform, but do wonder where they could find 324 candidates of any substance? I think Tricky would be in the top 100....