Huddersfield post match thoughts.

[NorthWestCorner]

If you dissect our games this season, it shouldn't come as a surprise that results like the last 3 were always going to happen. I've said it before on here that we rarely play well. And I genuinely believe that some of our results have masked the problems that we have and blindsided supporters into thinking we're play off contenders. I include myself in that by the way.

Think back to the games we've had. Does anyone else on here think we're lucky to be on the points we're on? There are so many games where we've been the inferior side but somehow found a result. I know that happens in football and you can argue that is shows character and so on, but when it's a regular occurrence it doesn't become sustainable and you end up closer to the bottom than the top. There are tons of statistics to suggest that we're not a very good team and this is why the bookies have us down as one of the favourites for relegation.

Apologies for posting such negativity but yesterday was thoroughly depressing. I honestly think that Hamshaw has a huge task to keep us in the division. The comings and goings in January are going to be absolutely pivotal.

Fair reflections. The only decent performance was v Lincoln and to some extent, the goals were quite spectacular and didn’t really reflect total domination. The rest of the performances were drab including a very lucky win at Barnsley, where if they had got one in the first half it would have been a thumping.

I’ve never rated MH. I’ve said it all along and just didn’t believe he had what it takes to be a manager. It’s not for everyone and we have to draw a line now otherwise it will be a formality of relegation. I think there needs to be a total clear out including Wood and Tongue as well. Another cheap option decision by TS that ends as a very expensive mistake.

[Brin]

Only positive thing I saw from yesterday was when the back line was altered at half time as both Rafferty and T.Holmes had stinkers.

Zak Jules looked cool and composed like he'd never missed a game all season. As for Douglas, well the lad showed us how to clear high balls and put the ball out when challenged. Both, surely have to start at Bolton.

As pointed out on many posts, the middle is where we lost it. No Benson/Spence and with non mobility old Mother Kelly there, maybe that's why Hamshaw chose to go long throughout the game? if that was the set up it completely took Gore out of his game, who, found himself all over the place covering others poor positioning sometimes deep in defence, that's how bad it was.

A team selection that backfired big time and you can bet, Hamshaw didn't sleep well last night. You like to think he won't be going with a back four again unless, he's looking for another defeat. Hopefully James is available against Bolton and Powell can drop into midfield to replace Kelly, who I should imagine will be sent out on loan come the January window along with others.

[Derbymiller]

Only positive thing I saw from yesterday was when the back line was altered at half time as both Rafferty and T.Holmes had stinkers.

Zak Jules looked cool and composed like he'd never missed a game all season. As for Douglas, well the lad showed us how to clear high balls and put the ball out when challenged. Both, surely have to start at Bolton.

As pointed out on many posts, the middle is where we lost it. No Benson/Spence and with non mobility old Mother Kelly there, maybe that's why Hamshaw chose to go long throughout the game? if that was the set up it completely took Gore out of his game, who, found himself all over the place covering others poor positioning sometimes deep in defence, that's how bad it was.

A team selection that backfired big time and you can bet, Hamshaw didn't sleep well last night. You like to think he won't be going with a back four again unless, he's looking for another defeat. Hopefully James is available against Bolton and Powell can drop into midfield to replace Kelly, who I should imagine will be sent out on loan come the January window along with others.

Brin what you on about, we started with three at the back all the sites state we started with three at the back, I went to check to see if I went to a different game to you. The time to play 4 at the back is when rafferty and James two very good league one full backs are both fit, which has been most of the season.

I agree about jules and Douglas by the way. You also say that because he picked Kelly and he isn’t up to it he decided to play long ball, if he actually did that then he isn’t fit to manage a pub team. We went long again like we have done game after game it wasn’t a one off. It is sad to watch Kelly he was a great player in his peak, now his brain is there but the legs have gone, but what I saw was him shouting at Martha multiple times to track back and he couldn’t be bothered, too many players not bothered Martha is a great example of that.

My son is adamant that the only chance of staying up is to get shut of Hamshaw, unfortunately I don’t think there is another option that won’t cost us a release fee available, certainly not one that would come to us, toxic environment at the moment, owners that don’t seem to care, senior management that lack ability and empty season ticket holder seats. I think we are stuck with Hamshaw until the points are so bad TS will sack him to try and make himself look good.

January needs to be a mass clear out as much as we can, both Holmes’s can go home, Kelly has to be moved out, sell Martha and cut our losses, Raggett needs to be moved on as well. If there is some way to get Hugill out take it, if not just stop him putting on a Rotherham shirt it like starting a game with ten men when he plays. MH comments post match hinted at some troubles behind the scenes, I wonder who that is?

[Brin]

Brin what you on about, we started with three at the back all the sites state we started with three at the back, I went to check to see if I went to a different game to you. The time to play 4 at the back is when rafferty and James two very good league one full backs are both fit, which has been most of the season.

I agree about jules and Douglas by the way. You also say that because he picked Kelly and he isn?’t up to it he decided to play long ball, if he actually did that then he isn?’t fit to manage a pub team. We went long again like we have done game after game it wasn?’t a one off. It is sad to watch Kelly he was a great player in his peak, now his brain is there but the legs have gone, but what I saw was him shouting at Martha multiple times to track back and he couldn?’t be bothered, too many players not bothered Martha is a great example of that.

My son is adamant that the only chance of staying up is to get shut of Hamshaw, unfortunately I don?’t think there is another option that won?’t cost us a release fee available, certainly not one that would come to us, toxic environment at the moment, owners that don?’t seem to care, senior management that lack ability and empty season ticket holder seats. I think we are stuck with Hamshaw until the points are so bad TS will sack him to try and make himself look good.

January needs to be a mass clear out as much as we can, both Holmes?’s can go home, Kelly has to be moved out, sell Martha and cut our losses, Raggett needs to be moved on as well. If there is some way to get Hugill out take it, if not just stop him putting on a Rotherham shirt it like starting a game with ten men when he plays. MH comments post match hinted at some troubles behind the scenes, I wonder who that is?

Derbs, it's a shame you didn't see Woody 'clearly' warming up with Kaleta, Baptiste, Holmes and Rafferty.....A BACK FOUR and that is exactly how we set off. Don't give a hoots what you read or heard on other websites. Even someone sat near me quoted he was starting with 4 at the back. Out of that lot Baptiste didn't look comfortable at all in that set up. Yes he eventually moved further up when we were playing ok ish up to 20 minutes.

As for the likes of powder puff Martha, he is being over rated as he offers little in a challenge, thinks he can beat 2/3 players at once as shown in the second half. He is a tricky player but, nothing special. I think the World Cup thing has gone to his head and like you say, too damn lazy to track back!

As for the forward line, what's happened to Josh Ayres? He's shown he can give it a go, can score and overall is a big unit to have up front so where is he? Luckily and surely, now Nombe is back he starts against Bolton. I'll be there and hopefully it's not a wasted journey.

Have a good Xmas.

[RU66]

Brin Kaleta left back you avin a laugh! If we went to a back 4 tell me wide players who can get behind oppositions defence?

At Bolton 3-5-2:

Dawson

Baptist Douglas Jules

Rafferty Gore Hall Powell James

Ayres Nombe

Yes Hall central midfield with Spence absent, sure he can adapt.

[Heliosphan78]

Who's your left wing back if Reece James isn't fit?

[RU66]

Who's your left wing back if Reece James isn't fit?

Martha will have to play there with Powell backing him up.

[mellowmiller]

It might help if the interviewers asked better questions, what about. Matt can you explain to the fans why you have instructed your keeper to kick the ball long down the middle, week after week?
Matt can you explain to the fans why you bought so many midfielders and yet miss them out and play over them?
matt can you explain why you refuse to try four at the back when you have experienced full backs and centre backs and no natural wing backs?
Matt can you explain to the fans when you had a number of young players perform really well at Salford you have ignored them and persist with old players that are clearly struggling.
Matt can you explain to the fans why you can't see that one of the UKs greatest impersonators (his specialities are of a footballer, a wrestler and a boxer) is allowed to stay on the pitch in a Rotherham shirt when a blind man can see he isn't a footballer and never will be.
Matt can you explain to the fans what you actually do in training except create players that are so fragile they are off work more often than a 1970s British car worker.

Matt, can you explain why you let Powell take virtually every set piece when his deliveries are so woeful?

[mellowmiller]

Martha will have to play there with Powell backing him up.

May as well start with 9 men then if that's the best you can offer!
Powell is hopeless as a wing back and Martha is so weak a strong gust of wind would blow him over.
Any decent winger would make mincemeat of the pair of them.

[caytonmiller]

Hamshaw was forced to play Douglas and we go on a 9 game unbeaten run. He drops him after a poor 45 minutes Vs Blackpool and we get mullered for 3 games. The lads learning. He's supposed to make mistakes.
Get a grip hamshaw and go back to what was working defence wise. That's a good starting block.
Ow and your midfield is pizz poor. Only Powell and gore should be playing
All the rest are either not good enough or always injured.